| Author | Message | ||
     New12r |
Hitten the sauce eh?  | ||
| Jon |
...the sarce...hic! | ||
| Vegasbueller |
I think George Carlin had it right.... worship Joe Pesci. | ||
| Mr_grumpy |
Doesn't everybody?  I regularly go to the temple of JP to drink & swear & ogle ladies behinds; I think if more adult men did this the world would be a safer place. That would be a good ticket to run on, you'd have a pretty good chance of being elected. Put Joe in as a figurehead president, hmmm it might just work...... world domination here we come........ And now Mr Bond, let me tell you all about my cunning diabolical plan, before one of my minions lets you escape........... | ||
| Blake |
I left my big hat on the plane returning from California. I procured another, better fitting more comfortable, but it isn't as big; it just ain't the same.  Some very interesting posts here. Most seem to be in agreement. Frank, In debate, it's usually best to stick to the issues and try to avoid engaging in the negative personal stuff. I've found that a thick skin is a very valuable trait when engaging in debate via the written word. I'm still trying to grow my own. Besides, in the fine print, don't the BadWeB rules indeed require "approval by Jon"? Always read the fine print. | ||
| Frankfast |
Seems to me that the person with the unpopular opinion has the thicker skin. Never liked falling in with the crowd. That's why I bought a Buell. Anyway, Merry Christmas and Happy New Year to all. See you after the holidays. | ||
| Rocketman |
Frank, If I were American I'd vote you for president. The world might be a safer place if more shared your open mindedness. Rocket | ||
| Frankfast |
Thank you Rocket. I'm glad someone here shares my sentiment. | ||
| Bomber |
Frank -- Rocker ain't the only one, as you know -- sadly, tho, it's becoming fashionable to be a bigot | ||
| Frankfast |
Quiet Bomber. This might be construed as a MOVEMENT. | ||
| Bomber |
ROFLMAO -- yeah, and then the Black Hueys would be on the way | ||
| Vegasbueller |
Bomber ..(in my best Court impressionist voice) Remind me to tell you one day..... The Huey I flew while working for a Sheriff's office in South Carolina was painted....flat black! The stories and rumors we heard around that town about the "top secret" black helicopter were hillarious! | ||
| Vegasbueller |
Amen Grumpy!  | ||
| Jon |
So anybody who is for the protection of their national identity from the an aggressive Islam is a bigot? What you have done here, Bomber and Frank is try to disqualify the counter viewpoint of the other person by disqualifying the character of that person. Your position is indefensible. MMMMERY CHRISTMAS!! | ||
| Johnnymceldoo |
Jon, be careful. I think the word Christmas is contraband now. Just say happy holidays from now on. Dont want to be a bigot you know. | ||
| Jon |
Doh! In that case, please accept my sincere, but not too sincere as I don't want to freak anybody out, wishes for an uneventful and inoffensive holiday. Cheetos for everyone!! | ||
| Blake |
Bomber, Take a look at the link posted recently in the "jihadi" thread (old war thread) on the quick board, especially the 2nd half of it. | ||
| Americanmadexb |
"IMMIGRANTS, NOT AUSTRALIANS, MUST ADAPT. Take It Or Leave it. I am tired of this nation worrying about whether we are offending some individual or their culture. If i had a dollar for every time i said that | ||
| Frankfast |
"I am tired of this nation worrying about whether we are offending some individual or their culture". Sounds to me like he's lazy. They need someone with more energy. | ||
| Americanmadexb |
"I am tired of this nation worrying about whether we are offending some individual or their culture". Sounds to me like he's lazy. They need someone with more energy. Sounds to me like your not from the US! | ||
| Frankfast |
I thought we were talking about a guy from Australia. And no, I'm not from Australia if that's what you meant to say. | ||
| Anonymous |
Theodore Roosevelt's ideas on Immigrants and being an AMERICAN in 1907. "In the first place, we should insist that if the immigrant who comes here in good faith becomes an American and assimilates himself to us, he shall be treated on an exact equality with everyone else, for it is an outrage to discriminate against any such man because of creed, or birthplace, or origin. But this is predicated upon the person's becoming in every facet an American, and nothing but an American...There can be no divided allegiance here. Any man who says he is an American, but something else also, isn't an American at all. We have room for but one flag, the American flag... We have room for but one language here, and that is the English language... and we have room for but one sole loyalty and that is a loyalty to the American people." Theodore Roosevelt 1907 Every American citizen needs to read this | ||
| Jon |
Ride on Teddy. So tell me, what is wrong with that? Nothing. | ||
| Rocketman |
Perhaps in 1907 America was was only halfway through allowing immigrants the world over to enter her shores and join the 'new' world. Those immigrants for the vast majority were welcomed with open arms. The whole purpose of their being there was to seek new life in a 'new' country - making roots for generations. Those people became what America is today. They built a thriving economy. Without such an influx of people America would not be the superpower she is today. Today's 'immigration' issues are in no way comparable to Americas wants and needs in 1907 so it cannot be expected that immigrants today should be person's becoming in every facet an American, and nothing but an American. Those words were perhaps not in the slightest racist back then as they referred to populating and colonising a young country much in need of people and the skills they brought with them. Those same words today I doubt Roosevelt would use if he were in command. I don't see any other country in the world today asking immigrants to swear allegiance to that country's flag either. If I emigrate to Australia, I won't be asked to declare myself Australian. Nor would I be expected to do likewise if I chose to go live in the USA. Becoming an Australian or an American citizen doesn't make me any less English - unless I myself CHOOSE to call myself an Australian or an American through my citizenship. Something in which case I'd have deemed to have 'earned'. Rocket | ||
| Frankfast |
Rocket - Your perception of this issue is crystal clear. This planet is getting smaller and we are all being stirred in a big pot. The borders, flags, religions, and customs that divide us have to fall or we're doomed. Those that realize this will be better off. Others, who require an identity, will be left to squabble. (Message edited by frankfast on December 23, 2006) | ||
| Justin_case |
Immigrants in 1907 came to contribute to society. Today's immigrant comes to take from society. | ||
| Johnnymceldoo |
I had a friend in the last 6 months get his citizenship here in the US. He had to renounce the British throne if I remember correctly as well as learn Americas history and be tested on it. He didnt like renouncing the throne but he did it anyway. Id like more immigrants like him. He is very proud to call himself an American. | ||
| Mortarmanmike120 |
Hey Frank, it seems that you are under the assumption that all countries / cultures are in fact equal. If that is the position that you are working from, I really don't see this discussion going anywhere. This planet is getting smaller and we are all being stirred in a big pot. - Who's doing the stirring? Rocket, in your last post you make the distinction of immigrants as: 1) Those who wish to integrate and become citizens. 2) Those who wish simply to live/work in a new country without adopting it or swearing allegiance to it. That is a valid distinction in my opinion. I however believe that the receiving country should be able to require certain behaviors from both groups. One of those requirements being that while you are in that country you follow IT'S laws to the exclusion of others. I wouldn't expect to move to England and live under American law which was the original thread. America in particular has never had a problem in welcoming the first group and has been pretty liberal in allowing the second. It is also my position that ANY country should be able to decide, for whatever reasons, the number of both types allowed in. Merry Christmas To All. | ||
| Johnnymceldoo |
Making everyone equal, getting rid of religion...Ive heard of these concepts before but I just cant put my finger on it... | ||
| Old_bird |
"Your perception of this issue is crystal clear. This planet is getting smaller and we are all being stirred in a big pot. The borders, flags, religions, and customs that divide us have to fall or we're doomed. Those that realize this will be better off. Others, who require an identity, will be left to squabble." Frankfast, please explain to me how you justify being tolerant of Sharia law when Sharia law is intolerant of everything else? It requires people to have the identity under Sharia law and proclaims death to anyone who tries to leave it. |
