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Mortarmanmike120
Posted on Thursday, December 14, 2006 - 06:29 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Ok, I'll be the first to admit that the Army is not infallible. As a 14 year vet I've seen the Army make some pretty ridiculous decisions in the 'fashion' department. Granted the Army is not in the fashion business and currently has more important things to worry about. But that doesn't change the fact that this is perhaps the silliest thing I have ever seen.
AN ARMY OF ONE (sleeve that is.)





http://www.newenough.com/powertrip_us_army_camo_alpha_jacket_page.htm
http://www.newenough.com/product_group_mens_powertrip_army.htm}

What could otherwise be a great marketing/recruiting idea has been screwed up by poor execution. There are things about the jacket that I like but WTF, did they run out of camoflage material. "Due to the ongoing Global War on Terror there is a nationwide shortage of digital camoflage material therefore we will only camoflage ONE sleeve."

So now instead of just putting up with people telling me I have a headlight out I'll have to endure them asking me if my other sleeve fell off.

It would be easy to just blame PowerTrip for this decision but I know the Army well enough to know they probably screwed it up themselves. Probably the same guy that decided EVERYONE in the Army should get a nifty black beret. Don't even get me going on that one...

So tell me what you think. Am I the only one that thinks this looks stupid?
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Wolfridgerider
Posted on Thursday, December 14, 2006 - 06:51 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

You are not the only one that thinks that looks stupid.

Just think, if you joined the Navy you could have a dog bowl on your head and bell bottoms on all the time.
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Bigdaddy
Posted on Thursday, December 14, 2006 - 07:27 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

I like the United States Army Powertripp stuff -- IMHO it's some good stuff (hope my wife's getting me one for Christmas.)

I, too, would like to talk to the flaming-freaking-idiot POS that made the headgear decision.
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Kdan
Posted on Thursday, December 14, 2006 - 07:35 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

I think it looks incredibly stupid. Did you get one?
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Nutsnbolt
Posted on Thursday, December 14, 2006 - 07:39 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

I agree, that is just plain ridiculous. You obviously saw the gloves, too, didn't you?

Look, I would be first in line to get some gear that said Marines on it, but, not if it looked like that. Let's face it, the army's uniform is just a take on the Marine one. So, the Marine one would look similar. Yuk.

I don't know about the Army, but, I can tell you about the marines. If I showed up like that at my battallion, not only would someone try to call me out for thinking that I have a sleeve hanging out of my jacket, but the gate guards alone would be enough of an irritant for me to take that jacket and burn it. You oughta see the crap that gets flipped for wearing your desert digitals and your gortex green digital coat when the weather sucks on your motorcycle. And the green is issued. Retarded.

I know, I know, it shouldn't matter. But, this is some crusty MgySgt we're talkin about here, who's STILL buttsore about the transition to desert warfare who wishes he was back in the bush.

I digress. If that thing were all black with the yellow piping or all digital, I would be a jealous man. Could you imagine a black with red piping or all digital with EGA's. Shoot, I'd be first in line.

Mark, out.
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Slaughter
Posted on Thursday, December 14, 2006 - 07:50 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Reminds me of the large-animal veterinarian working on my family's farm in Slinger, WI.

When it's time to check the pregnant cow, it's time to pull the "condom" over the hand and arm that is going to be inserted into the cow to check on the calf in the uterus.

Know where that arm goes? Thaaaaats RIiiiightt! And after it is pulled out, it kinda looks like that pic.

God bless our Military, and may he punish the Military's fashion director!

(Message edited by slaughter on December 14, 2006)
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Cecil1
Posted on Thursday, December 14, 2006 - 08:13 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

I REALLY like the powertrip army stuff and hope my wife is planning on getting me the Delta jacket and tactical gloves for X-mas.

Tim
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Captnemo
Posted on Thursday, December 14, 2006 - 08:21 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

I would need two of those jackets...



Someone needed to remind the chucklehead that the Beret is a symbol of an often defeated nation. What's next, croissants in MRE'S ? W T F, Over ?
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Bigdaddy
Posted on Thursday, December 14, 2006 - 08:27 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

You're totally missing the beret issue.

I like this stuff too -- forget waiting on Christmas I'm ordering some now.

All it needs is some wings and a tab and you'd have a proper leather riding jacket (assuming you're not tab-less.)
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Captnemo
Posted on Thursday, December 14, 2006 - 09:14 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

I know, the SF guys are PO'd because everybody got their berets.
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Rasmonis
Posted on Thursday, December 14, 2006 - 09:30 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

I wonder how safe this gear actually is. Don't care for the lone sleeve thing.

While the berets are cool, there's nothing better than a well sculpted and shaped BDU cap. AND they even come with ear warmers - silly looking yes, but quite effective.

I'm just jealous I never got to wear a beret. Still have my airborne beret, never saw official duty (med drop).
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Bigdaddy
Posted on Thursday, December 14, 2006 - 09:34 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Negative. General Eric Shinseki should have his tab revoked for such blasphemy too.

It's a much deeper issue than a simple head covering of a particular color -- I'm out.


G2
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Midknyte
Posted on Thursday, December 14, 2006 - 10:31 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

I wonder how safe this gear actually is.

meh, your left arm, you know - the one that you're supposed to use for hand [turn] signalling, "that's" the one that they camo???

(Message edited by midknyte on December 14, 2006)
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Chasespeed
Posted on Thursday, December 14, 2006 - 10:41 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Just think, if you joined the Navy you could have a dog bowl on your head and bell bottoms on all the time.

Nah, we dont wear bell bottoms anymore...a dn the dog dish will be gone except for Dress Blues/Whites withing the year I believe...maybe a little longer...

But, I agree, I woudlnt be cuaght dead wearing that jacket...

Chase}
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Vaneo1
Posted on Thursday, December 14, 2006 - 01:44 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

didnt Michael Jackson wear a similar jacket to that one in one of his music videos back in the 80's?
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Cyclonemick
Posted on Thursday, December 14, 2006 - 01:47 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

I personally think it would be a pretty cool jacket if both of the sleeves were black.
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Cecil1
Posted on Thursday, December 14, 2006 - 02:45 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

didnt Michael Jackson wear a similar jacket to that one in one of his music videos back in the 80's?


You watch Michael Jackson video's?

(Message edited by cecil1 on December 14, 2006)
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Wolfridgerider
Posted on Thursday, December 14, 2006 - 02:46 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

I agree with Cyclonemick, Both sleeves need to be black and the one thing that would make it twice as nice would be a big





SEMPER FI
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Cecil1
Posted on Thursday, December 14, 2006 - 02:49 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

I personally think it would be a pretty cool jacket if both of the sleeves were black.

The Delta jacket both sleeves have ACU on them. I think it looks much better than the one on top of this page.
Tim
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Cecil1
Posted on Thursday, December 14, 2006 - 02:52 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

I suck at posting pic's but here is a linkto the Delta jacket.
Tim

http://www.power-trip.com/products.cfm?products_id =1836

(Message edited by cecil1 on December 14, 2006)
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Mortarmanmike120
Posted on Thursday, December 14, 2006 - 02:53 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Or even if both were camo it might look alright.
Maybe I'm missing something. I know that I'm no longer in the Army's target audience (35yo.) Do you think this appeals to a certain age bracket (17-23yo.) Maybe the same focus group that came up with this idea coined the phrase "Army Strong." - which is a discussion we've already had on badweb.

My fellow soldier friends love my buell but I don't think I could stand their snickering if I showed up wearing this.
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Nutsnbolt
Posted on Thursday, December 14, 2006 - 02:53 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Wolf...
You got it.

It doesn't even need to say ANYTHING! No Marines, or the few the proud.....

Hey, I see a great crossover with Buell and Marines. The Few, The Proud?

Well, anyway, just my thought.

Semper Fi.


Mark
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Vaneo1
Posted on Thursday, December 14, 2006 - 02:53 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

I knew I was gonna regret that...ne way the jackets ugly. At least you guys have enough funding for something like that. Weve got enough recruiting cash for a few T-shirts. Woulda had some bad ass sling bags but that idea fell through
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Cecil1
Posted on Thursday, December 14, 2006 - 03:05 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Sorry Vaneo1 couldn't resist the comment on Michael Jackson.

Recruiting cash? I wish I could persuade the army to foot the bill.

Tim
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Nutsnbolt
Posted on Thursday, December 14, 2006 - 03:09 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

buy it and then "rope it" at the end of the month. Joke. I know, it's illegal. Did recruiting for a while. Roped about every expense I could. Did it in the midwest. A lot of windshield time.

Mark
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Wolfridgerider
Posted on Thursday, December 14, 2006 - 03:53 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

I went TAD recruiting twice, the first time wasn't bad. But the second time was a major suck fest. I knew if I re-upped, recruiting would be in my near future.

NO THANKS!! I liked the field and being deployed.
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Diablobrian
Posted on Thursday, December 14, 2006 - 04:16 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

I spent almost all of my 6 years in the Navy (87-93) "haze grey and under-way"

I'm glad the Army is working on it's image, but I wonder about some of their choices.

Army - Strong, and "one Army - one hat" are a little odd,
I do like the idea of military riding jackets, as long as they meet specs for riding
on base, which these don't if the same standards the navy and marines use are
enforced by the army. There just isn't enough reflective material on the jackets to
meet that code.

We used to have to wear the orange vests (road-guard vests) with stripes at all times
to be "legal" to ride anywhere on a bike (even off base) back then.

Of course everyone stopped just off base and peeled the vest off.
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Nutsnbolt
Posted on Thursday, December 14, 2006 - 08:28 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Yeah, and not ALL bases require that you wear it. I rode right on to Offut for 3 years and not once wearing my road guard vest.

But, yeah, the vest thing is a joke. I know guys who are senior enlisted and and senior officers who REFUSE to wear that gear. THE SECOND they get off base. Wham! they pull over and take that crap off.

Mark
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