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Racerboy
Posted on Thursday, December 07, 2006 - 08:13 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Does anyone have a Zumo and can you tell us how it compares to a StreetPilot?...Is it as easy to plot a route with?...I notice that they say the Zumo only supports one via...This seems to be a big problem to me...

Thanks,

Bob
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Sjh
Posted on Thursday, December 07, 2006 - 11:36 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Funny you post this as I was also looking at their site today and spoke with tech support. I think I am going with the quest2, it is just one up from the same model buell offers.

But the Zumo looks awesome.
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Rhinowerx
Posted on Friday, December 08, 2006 - 12:32 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Have not owned a streetpilot, but yes, you can create custom routes on your PC and upload them to the Zumo.

Additionally, the Zumo keeps a track log that can be converted into an imported Route, which can then be saved or modified as you see fit.

Compared to my previous Garmin - 60C - this thing rocks. It does everything my 60C did and more.

More info in a previous thread posted here http://www.badweatherbikers.com/buell/messages/142838/242634.html?1164933813

Cheers
-Jack

(Message edited by rhinowerx on December 08, 2006)
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Reepicheep
Posted on Friday, December 08, 2006 - 07:43 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

The Zumo does full routing, the documentation just leads you to believe otherwise.

If the Quest 2 is routing slowly, disable some of the maps you don't need (you don't remove them, just disable them).
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Sjh
Posted on Friday, December 08, 2006 - 09:27 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

What does everyone think of the Quest or Quest 2? Would they be good to use with the bike and car? I know the Zumo does more and is much nicer, but I don't think I will use it enough to spend the extra cash.

Is it worth it to go with the Quest2 over the Quest?

(Message edited by sjh on December 08, 2006)
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Jackbequick
Posted on Friday, December 08, 2006 - 09:36 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

The zumo's capabilities are not clear from Garmin's online documentation.

Jack (Rhinowerx) has been graciously helping us figure out the zumo's capabilities since he got one last month. Garmin's online docs just don't give you the full picture.

So the bottom line is the zumo does do all the navigation things that may be missing from some units. The zumo does multi destination routing (to give you full routing control) and saves a track history (for recovering trip details after the fact).

Thanks for all your help Jack!

Jack
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Reepicheep
Posted on Friday, December 08, 2006 - 09:58 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

I bought a Quest 1 and have about a years worth of experience with it now.

I know a ton more now then I did when I bought it (and had already done a ton of research then).

If I were to buy another GPS today?

I'd buy a Quest 1 : )

You can hold about a 200+ mile square worth of detailed maps at any given time in the Quest 1. It lacks the fancy "Bluetooth phone integration" features of the Zumo, but works minimally and perfectly as a very rich navigation tool.

The "limited" memory has been a total non issue for me. Cincinnati to Deals Gap to Maggie Valley NC and back? All detailed maps loaded with room to spare. Dayton to Florida? All detailed maps loaded, with most of the west coast of Florida, with room to spare.

It does kind of "tie" you to a Laptop or PC, but in my opinion, I am tied to a laptop or PC anyway. I want my PC to be doing my serious plotting and planning for my routes ahead of time, it will always do it far less painfully then a handheld GPS could do.

The "on gps" planning and routing is emergency only. The Quest does it fine, it's just a pain on a small screen with a limited number of buttons. I suspect on the Zumo it is still a pain, as even though it is bigger with more buttons. It would still be nowhere near a cheap laptop relative to screen real estate and input devices.

There are (AFAIK) two significant navigation features you will loose with the Quest relative to the Zumo.

1) The "diagonal over the shoulder view" of your map as it scrolls. The Zumo will do this, the Quest just gives a "look straight down classic map view". Both views are highly functional, but the diagonal view packs a ton more information on a given chunk of screen real estate.

2) The voice prompts for the Quest do not speak the street name, they do on the Zumo. The quest will say "turn right in 2 minutes". The Zumo will say "turn right on Smith street in 2 minutes". The quest will show smith street clearly on the display though, so the information is there, you just have to look.

If Garmin offered a software update to my Quest to do either of the above, I would be thrilled and snap it up. If I were buying again though, I would still not pay the extra $100+ for the Quest II over the Quest I to get the bigger memory, nor the extra $400 for the Zumo over the Quest I to get the diagonal map views and spoken street names.

I don't have all the bluetooth stuff and don't want to play MP3's on my bike anyway, so all the other cool Zumo stuff would not help me. I would not fault somebody else for wanting it though, the Zumo is cleary a very cool piece of technology. A premium device for a premium price.
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Dickc
Posted on Friday, December 08, 2006 - 10:51 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

An interactive view of the ZUMO

http://www.goldwinggadgets.com/Zumo/

Dickc
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Dickc
Posted on Friday, December 08, 2006 - 10:59 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

My only experience with a GPS is the built-in GPS on my Goldwing... I like because I do not have to worry about the GPS being stolen and it has a big screen.

I have been looking at a Quest2, Zumo or a Nuvi 350 for the car and ULY. I like the Nuvi except it is not waterproof... but when it rains I usually stop to put on my rainsuit and then I could put the Nuvi in the trunk when I get out the rainsuit.

The Nuvi is $450 at Amazon, Quest2 $530 and the Zumo $849 but I have seen the Zumo for $780.

Dickc
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Rhinowerx
Posted on Friday, December 08, 2006 - 11:06 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

For me, where the Zumo really shines (so far) is using it in the car. The voice prompts are great, and together with the MP3 player, it's even better.

As it turns out, my cell phone plan runs out on the 15th of this month. As part of my renewal, I'll be picking up a new phone - probably the Motorola RZR - with Bluetooth.

With a Bluetooth phone linked to the Zumo, you can make and receive calls through the unit - hands free. This includes making and receiving calls in your address book, as well as making calls from any POI’s that have telephone numbers. This will be great feature in the car. For the bike, the bonus is, as I see it, that when I'm riding (I choose not to listen to audio anything!) and the phone rings in my tank bag, I'll see that it's ringing as the number/name will show up on the GPS. Of course, I won't be able to answer it, but if it's from my wife, or a buddy that I'm trying to meet up with, I can pull over and return the call.

FWIW, the Zumo, while more expensive, is still good value for money. If you hunt around, you can get a decent price on it. I picked mine up shipped for $740. Consider then that it comes with an MP3 player, mounts for both the car and MC, all the necessary cables, and a full unlock version of Navigator V8. Other than an SD data card, there is nothing else to buy for this thing. My previous unit, a Garmin 60CS (which was stolen, and then replaced with a 60C) was around $400. The touratec mount for it was an additional $120. Then I still needed the RAM mount, and the hardwire kit to wire it to the bike. Oh, and it didn’t come with any navigation software.

IMHO, I think, at least in this case, and especially if you can get a reasonable deal on it, the Zumo is well worth the little extra upfront.

Cheers

-Jack
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Espcustoms
Posted on Friday, December 08, 2006 - 11:44 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Has anyone integrated a Zumo along with their Bluetooth phone and the Bluetooth capable Chatterbox? Seems like that would give you the best of all worlds.
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Rhinowerx
Posted on Friday, December 08, 2006 - 11:59 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

FYI - for info on the Zumo, this site seems pretty good http://razorbiker.com/zumo/

Cheers
-Jack
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Ocbueller
Posted on Friday, December 08, 2006 - 07:49 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Jack,
Thanks for the helpful link.
SteveH
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Thansesxb9rs
Posted on Sunday, December 10, 2006 - 02:00 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Send a PM to Lowflyer, he works for garmin and did some testing on the Zumo before it was released to the public.

He can tell his likes dislikes.
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Racerboy
Posted on Monday, December 11, 2006 - 06:50 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Thanks everyone for the info...I had read somewhere else that the routing capability was limited but that info was obviously wrong...The interactive links were especially helpful so I think we'll go ahead with the Zumo as a gift to a very good friend from his wife...This will be his first GPS to go along with his first motorcycle...

Thanks,

Bob
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Reepicheep
Posted on Monday, December 11, 2006 - 09:25 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

The info was not wrong so much as the online documentation was misleading. It took some digging to understand the change in terminology was not a change in function.

You could easily make a career out of trying to decipher what GPS units actually do what well.
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