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Barker
Posted on Friday, November 03, 2006 - 12:12 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Sport bikes are the devil.

Saw this on killboy, watched the package and noticed a Yellow XB9R crossing the double yellow in the twisties.

As I watched it I felt my insurance go up.

http://www.myfoxatlanta.com/myfox/pages/Home/Detai l?contentId=1362188&version=1&locale=EN-US&layoutC ode=VSTY&pageId=1.1.1
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Barker
Posted on Friday, November 03, 2006 - 12:25 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)


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Rasmonis
Posted on Friday, November 03, 2006 - 01:06 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

I love how they over-dramatize everything. "Gory gee, those motorcyclists in their bullet bikes are terrorizing the local citizenry"!

"I once saw one dem moto-terrorist pettin' one dem devil-dogs- brazen"!

There are equal numbers of idiots on the road in cages killing themselves too. 13 death in a year doesn't seem too bad.

Did 'yall get a look on the reporter's face when a motorcycle went by during his story?.

Sux, the power of the squid.
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Paint_shaker
Posted on Friday, November 03, 2006 - 03:40 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Nothing worse than being stuck behind someone driving slowly, on a twisty road with no passing areas, for miles upon miles, upon miles........
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Jb2
Posted on Friday, November 03, 2006 - 04:05 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

I began riding the "Dragon" before they called it the "Dragon" and when there was almost a mutual respect between local motorists and touring motorcycles. That has definitely gone by the wayside. Very few folks will pull over to allow motorcyclists to pass. It's not uncommon anymore either to hear resentment expressed by locals in restaurants concerning brazen stunts pulled by us bikers. They feel we get away with way too many violations, more than you could get by with in a car. We have created our own demons in the process of having what we all consider a "little bit of fun." In a couple of areas some locals have oiled the road with diesel fuel to combat the problem in renegade justice style.

I travel alone as much or more than I do with a group. Having said that; the folks I do choose to travel with lean towards the conservative side but it's not uncommon to hear "I hate to waste a road." I think what we're all forgetting is that some of these roads lead right to the homes of people who don't ride and they are loosing their patience with our kind.

The fact that this is just now becoming a newsworthy item proves they've been tolerant for years. I've noticed a huge rise in the numbers of riders, the numbers of risks taken and the number of accidents in the last twenty years. We've brought it on ourselves folks. If you want to change how the public perceives us then you're gonna have to change the way you approach your riding style when you venture into someone else's back yard.

Only we can fix it it. Pointing a finger back at the locals only festers the wound.
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Macbuell
Posted on Friday, November 03, 2006 - 07:36 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

I ride up in north Georgia all the time and ride the roads that they were talking about. That's the first time I have ever heard anyone refer to it as the loop though. Route 60 is a great road and after going to the Dragon over the summer, I prefer 60 to the Dragon.

There are idiots everywhere, riding bikes, driving cars. I don't what you can do about it except tell them to slow down but most won't listen until something bad happens. Most of these riders screaming around at ridiculous speeds are younger (18-25) and haven't figured out that they are immortal yet. They may figure it out too late. I just hope that new laws and ridiculous insurance rates aren't the result.
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Lastcyclone
Posted on Friday, November 03, 2006 - 11:10 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Where can we find part two of the story?
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Kdan
Posted on Saturday, November 04, 2006 - 12:54 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Where can we find part two of the story?

http://www.myfoxatlanta.com/myfox/pages/Home/Detai l?contentId=1375282&version=2&locale=EN-US&layoutC ode=VSTY&pageId=1.1.1

Ask and ye shall receive.
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Betzy
Posted on Saturday, November 04, 2006 - 01:33 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Watched both segments....Bunch of cagers!! Everyone ride safe now!!
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Brucelee
Posted on Saturday, November 04, 2006 - 09:28 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Sorry, but we have our own version of this nonsense here in CA, called Palomar Mt.

Yes, the SB riders are insane and yes, they kill themselves and others.

What is it about speed limits and double lines that you guys don't understand?
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Bcordb3
Posted on Saturday, November 04, 2006 - 09:42 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Riding fast and hard is a lot of fun. Putting some one else's life endanger is not very smart.

Own the curves is not a true statement, we really own half the curve and if some one else is occupying the space they own it.

For those who remember Hill Street Blues

"Be careful out there, it is a jungle"

(Message edited by bcordb3 on November 04, 2006)
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Rasmonis
Posted on Saturday, November 04, 2006 - 10:34 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

What they fail to mention is the speed at which the corners are actually taken in. There's a difference clocking a rider on a straightaway approaching a curve versus the actual corner speed when passing a car. They make it sound like these guys are cornering doing triple digits.

I enjoy sport riding immensely and it is awful to hear how squids paint a negative image on all sportbike riders.

I'm no saint and have become frustrated when getting stuck behind a slow driver/cruiser on a good road like many of you probably do. I have no right to tell anyone else how they should ride, but we need to recognize our part in all of this and should educate the noob riders.

I need to lead by example, but to do so effectively, I need to learn a lot more about riding safely on the street and to take my need for speed to the track.
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Macbuell
Posted on Saturday, November 04, 2006 - 10:48 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

I try to never pass on a double yellow. I did a couple of times at the Dragon because the cager refused to pull over and let us by. Those times are the only times I can remember doing that in a very long time.
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Daves
Posted on Saturday, November 04, 2006 - 10:48 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

"over 200 MPH" Bahahahahahahahahahahahahaha
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Cyclonedon
Posted on Saturday, November 04, 2006 - 11:20 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

"As I watched it I felt my insurance go up"}

I purchased a new Ulysses this last May and when I went to insure it, my insurance agent told me that it was listed as a sports bike and my insurance premium would cost over $2800.00 per year!!! I was able to change insurance companies and ended-up paying around $700.00 but it's all caused by the amount of accident claims paid which is caused by a small percentage of motorcycle riders. When riding like that, it should be done at a track where they have controlled riding conditions and it's much safer.
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Black_sunshine
Posted on Saturday, November 04, 2006 - 12:14 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

BAHAHAHAH!....."all the cruiser bikes were going on or below the speed limit".
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Thespive
Posted on Saturday, November 04, 2006 - 12:53 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Sorry, but we have our own version of this nonsense here in CA, called Palomar Mt.

Yes, the SB riders are insane and yes, they kill themselves and others.

What is it about speed limits and double lines that you guys don't understand?

yeah the SB guys up there are crazy. All I want to do is stick it in third an do the Pace, but some guys are downright dangerous to me and everyone else.

--Sean
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Brucelee
Posted on Sunday, November 05, 2006 - 10:27 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

yeah the SB guys up there are crazy. All I want to do is stick it in third an do the Pace, but some guys are downright dangerous to me and everyone else.


--Sean


Recently I am tooling up the mountain at a respectable pace, staying on my side etc. Some damn fool comes around me with no warning on my right side and nearly clips me.

At the top of the mountain, he says,
"sorry man!"

Now, if I was not a law abiding man ......
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Xring
Posted on Sunday, November 05, 2006 - 10:39 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Nothing worse than being stuck behind someone driving slowly, on a twisty road with no passing areas, for miles upon miles, upon miles........

Except passing in a blind curve and hitting an auto head on.


don't what you can do about it except tell them to slow down but most won't listen until something bad happens.

Even after something bad happens, very few change their ways. About 15 years ago there was a group of local boys that rode crazy; they were notorious for passing cars whenever they caught up to them...whether traffic was coming or not. They'd just ride the yellow line and squeeze through. Usually they wore shorts and sandals, frequently no shirts. At least one of them had a pretty bad wreck; after he healed up he kept on doing the same thing. I assume if they're still alive, they're still riding that way wherever they are.
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Ulendo
Posted on Sunday, November 05, 2006 - 02:37 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

hmm - I ride at legal speeds, but as already pointed out, what the article fails to mention is cars doing 15+ BELOW the legal limit, and deliberately blocking. Lots of retired folks around where I am, and retesting isnt mandatory until a very advanced age ( and infrequently at that) That said, where is the companion media attention on drivers with failing skills ILLEGALLY obstructing traffic? failing to shoulder check because they cant turn their neck?? ( isnt that kind of like ignorance of the law isnt an excuse??)didnt see me there? ( Headlight is ON:if you cant see me, isnt that driving without due concern?) weaving across the lane to block ?!?!(drunk? dangerous driving? without due care? unsafe vehicle ( ball joints are shot?!?!)))

Any / all of these are a ticketable offense here, but I have yet to see ANY law enforcement anywhere issue a ticket / infraction to a driver whos unable to manouver at ambient traffic speed. yes, its posted as the LIMIT, but when they're doing 15-20% under it, and there's a line of traffic stacking up behind them....they're equally problematic & dangerous when I'm in my 7500lb service truck!! this isnt a 'one time tourist' thing, either. There are a number of vehicles I see do this on an every-day basis, and I've seen 2 instances on a highway where an emergency vehicle came up on the back of the row...and the d*** fool STILL wont move /get out of the way!!

frustrating!! the only solution I can see ( legally, at least) is I'm starting to take license plate #'s, and calling in the worst offenders as dangerous drivers.

ok - needless to say this is a subject that royally p******s me off!! nuff said - rant off
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Thespive
Posted on Sunday, November 05, 2006 - 03:18 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Brucelee,

I haven't had that happen to me on Palomar (only tempted fate on that road a couple of times), but when I was on my Sporty on Ortega, leaned over, dragging exhaust, set in a turn two guys on sport bikes passed me. I had no idea they were there as I was concentrating on my technique minding my own business and one passed on the outside and one on the INSIDE! While I was set in my turn! Fortunately when I was startled I was able to keep composure and maintain. It really pisses me off those guys couldn't wait until after the turn for me to wave them by. I haven't gone back to Ortega on a Saturday since. I rather not die at the hands of another motorcyclist. I am content sticking it in third and doing The Pace, it is what I love most.

--Sean
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Lost_in_ohio
Posted on Sunday, November 05, 2006 - 04:47 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Did you notice the cruisers they clocked where held up by cagers....I find it interesting.
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Rocketman
Posted on Sunday, November 05, 2006 - 06:06 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

It's hard to give the newsreaders credit, no matter how hard they try to be fair to the majority of more sensible riders, when they show video of a speedo, and running commentary to go with it, passing 200mph.

Simple research would clearly show that as bullshit, but those watching who are anti-bike will believe such reactionary journalism and condemn us all.

Poor show when those making the news get to use journalism to judge the biker but they can't be honest in their own profession.




Rocket
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Paint_shaker
Posted on Sunday, November 05, 2006 - 06:54 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

NOT all corners in the miles upon miles are blind, depending on the road of course...
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