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Tramp
Posted on Friday, July 14, 2006 - 09:19 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Rocket- WTF?
dang-
first real chopper i've seen in along time.
nice paint scheme as well, might I add....
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Rocketman
Posted on Friday, July 14, 2006 - 09:38 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Seems everyone likes the T Bob. Well, nearly everyone lol.

I think the 'convert it back to stock' was a little tongue in cheek comment.

The Vincent is way nice too. The frame looks interesting. I can't make out from that pic whether or not there's a cradle to it or if the motor is a stressed member. That said, why anyone would go to the extravagance of building a frame then using Norton long Roadholder forks is a little baffling. I'd have used modern forks and brakes. Not that the drums don't work, coz they certainly can, but classic for classic sake, I dunno.

Rocket
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Swampy
Posted on Friday, July 14, 2006 - 09:49 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

U'm, Yeah,
Can you see it at one of those chopper shows......

"What kinda engine is that?"

"No points!"

But I understand it very well
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Jackbequick
Posted on Friday, July 14, 2006 - 09:52 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Brian,

The brakes on that Vincent based custom might surprise you. I can't see the off side but that looks to have a four leading shoe brake system. If so, it would be fully capable of locking that wheel up. The air inlet seen on the right side funnels cooling air through the brake and it will have very quick recovery time.

That bike and the brake are in character, putting a more modern brake on it would cry out for a better tire, a better suspension, etc., and it would be the beginning of the end for a monument to one point in time in the evolution of racing and sport motorcycles.

Licensed and on the road, that would have been the sport bike of its day.

Jack
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Tramp
Posted on Friday, July 14, 2006 - 10:01 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

funny thing- the bag-oiler triumphs' drums stopped 'em much better than the frame-oilers' discs...
sometimes it's not what you do, but, rather,how you do it.
that being said, however, i can't imagine building a custom without discs.
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Rocketman
Posted on Friday, July 14, 2006 - 11:25 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Jack, I understand your character point but that American built Commando proves modern suspension and brakes can look very cool on what appears to be a classic.

Rocket
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Diablobrian
Posted on Friday, July 14, 2006 - 11:53 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Oh yeah, the vincents are legendary for a reason.

I could see those were trick brakes, but I'd still
be worried about how well they'd disipate heat. It'd
be a shame to not take advantage of modern rubber and
grip and take a bike like that out into the twisties.
Those old featherbed based chassis can still do a
great job as long as you don't expect it to perform
like a modern repli-racer. I'd just want it to stop
and stick like one: )

Also, is that a Rickman chassis?

(Message edited by diablobrian on July 14, 2006)
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Rocketman
Posted on Saturday, July 15, 2006 - 05:33 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

It certainly isn't a Featherbed.


Slimline Featherbed


Rocket
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Rocketman
Posted on Saturday, July 15, 2006 - 06:18 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Ever have one of those brain farts where you can't see the wood for the trees?

That's an Egli frame, as in Egli Vincent

Rocket
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Jackbequick
Posted on Saturday, July 15, 2006 - 07:23 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

So, per the Egli link, that Vincent probably weighs in around 400 pounds wet. And could be "improved" here and there. I just have too much fondness for the way it was...

But everyone is right when it comes to these kinds of bikes. You can keep improving things one piece after another and it never ends.

I'd like the think the frame and engine are partnered for life though, that is so nice.

But the T-Bob is interesting eye candy too. The size and proximity of the seat relative to that massive unfendered rear tire will probably keep any lard butts from abusing it.

Jack
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Tom_b
Posted on Saturday, July 15, 2006 - 10:10 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

rocket, nice link on the egli, i also could not think of the name of that frame. If your into classic and vintage race bikes, the link I posted for the vincent has some of the most beautiful bikes I've ever seen.
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Glitch
Posted on Saturday, July 15, 2006 - 10:14 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

It certainly isn't a Featherbed.
Is that yours!?
I'd love to have that to build a true cafe' racer!
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Rocketman
Posted on Saturday, July 15, 2006 - 03:39 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

No Glitch, I just Googled and that pic was in a gallery. Ain't it a great pic. The minute I saw it my head was installing all sorts of 'modern' engines in it, lol.

Yeah, I like my 'classics' but I spent all my young years on them whilst my friends rode into the sun on reliable machines. Now I've got reliability. Buell-cough <grin> and my friends from the past all have cars. I got new bike friends now, and I got enough cars

I'll check the link further Tom. Thanks.

You guys did catch this recently didn't ya?


modern classic - classic vintage


Rocket
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Tramp
Posted on Saturday, July 15, 2006 - 05:33 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

that pic says a lot.
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Diablobrian
Posted on Saturday, July 15, 2006 - 06:00 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Of course it's not a featherbed, but it is a derivative of the style, That's why I said "featherbed based".
Just like my old h-2 kawasaki was in a chassis derived from the old featherbed.

I bet You'd like Diablomichael's old Triumph based chopper. It's still in progress, but it's homegrown.
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Tom_b
Posted on Saturday, July 15, 2006 - 06:27 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

did someone say triumph? Here ya go. i really dig this one

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Diablobrian
Posted on Saturday, July 15, 2006 - 07:47 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

now that's a WILD THING!

Cool little chopper.
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Rocketman
Posted on Saturday, July 15, 2006 - 08:29 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

I like it too, but no matter what it is, that's not a chopper.

Rocket
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Diablobrian
Posted on Saturday, July 15, 2006 - 09:42 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

well, lets see, it's not a bobber, and the neck of the frame has been cut and raked,
and it wasn't built from a catalog. That pretty much defines a chopper doesn't it?

No wannabe would be caught dead on it either, That's a HUGE bonus in my book!
From the looks of the pipes it's a foot warmer too

(Message edited by diablobrian on July 15, 2006)
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Tom_b
Posted on Saturday, July 15, 2006 - 10:11 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

What is funny about that triumph is it was built by a japanese builder named Shimya Kimura who has been building custom harleys in japan for almost 15 yrs. His company Zero engineering builds great bikes. Most american builders need to take lessons from him. His influences are just now really coming thru in other buliders copying him. hence the triumph because he wants to take a different route
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Tom_b
Posted on Saturday, July 15, 2006 - 10:19 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

shimya kimura's triumph is more of a track racer custom than a chopper. he will personally tell you his bikes are more race style and functional than most "choppers"
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Lonexb
Posted on Saturday, July 15, 2006 - 10:24 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

since we are talking triumph choppers...











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Diablobrian
Posted on Saturday, July 15, 2006 - 10:57 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

That's a right purty bike too. I like the airbox.
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Tom_b
Posted on Saturday, July 15, 2006 - 11:21 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

while on the subject of japan, here is one a friend is bulding from a yamaha xs1100

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Diablobrian
Posted on Sunday, July 16, 2006 - 12:27 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

That's slick, you don't see too awful many shaft drive customs, it's too bad there's not much selection for wheels and tires.

Your friend should be proud of his work no matter what anyone says.

I'm betting there is some sort of personal attachment to the XS11 for him.

I have a friend in San Diego building a Virago 11 custom from scratch. It's a kind of journey for him. He is very attached to the bike.
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1313
Posted on Sunday, July 16, 2006 - 01:31 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Rocket,

I immediately thought of you after seeing this at the Easyriders Rodeo in Wilson, NC today:

Rocket Man's

I sure hope the 'other trick you have up your sleeve' has nothing to do with the bike above.

1313
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Rocketman
Posted on Sunday, July 16, 2006 - 11:35 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

So do I, lol.

Rocket
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Tramp
Posted on Sunday, July 16, 2006 - 08:03 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

man- i miss the ER Rodeo here in Middletown, NY.

They had to discontinue it in this 'border area'
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Tom_b
Posted on Sunday, July 16, 2006 - 10:52 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Brian, my friend has no shame and doesn't really GAFF what most people think. the yamaha was a rough freebie bike that he decided to custom. It is all custom from the fork stem back and all his fab work. His thinking is old asian bikes are cheaper to custom than old harleys and much less cantankerous than old brit bikes
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Arbalest
Posted on Monday, July 17, 2006 - 07:48 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

About that cool looking pre unit Triumph.....and you guys thought the original S1 had a suppository seat!
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