| Author | Message | ||
     Buelltroll |
I just got done flogging the bike for 4 hours. (damn the racers must be in hella good shape cuz I'm f***** BEAT) Why is it that right handers seem harder? And downhill is nowhere near as fun in the twisties? | ||
| Indy_bueller |
Hm. Left handers seem harder to me. Are you right-handed? I'm left-handed. I wonder if that has anything to do with it. | ||
| Glitch |
And downhill is nowhere near as fun in the twisties? Because going up hill you're under power and have more control over the bike. | ||
| Dongalonga |
I seem to have a harder time with rights as well and I am a lefty so who knows!?!? | ||
| Whodom |
Motorcycle Consumer News had an article a while back that mentioned if you've ever dropped the bike in a corner, you will tend to be leary of cornering in that direction. Does that fit you? | ||
| Tramp |
right-handers seem harder because of your own cerebral hemispheric bias... this is why almost all oval racing, be it equestrian, footracing, bicycles, automobiles, etc., are left-turn. | ||
| Kdan |
I'm right handed, different brained and I like uphill twisties better than downhill. I also find lefts are not as clean as rights. Guess that puts an end to my Nascar career. Dang. | ||
| Tramp |
nope- the reason you find lefts less 'clean' than rights is because you're performing them on public roads, where a left turn has you on reverse camber when you're in the right lane. public roads are cambered, with crests, and left turns on such put you on the wrong side of the crest, when yuo'r ein your own lane. put in some track hours and it's another ballgame altogether. | ||
| Firemanjim |
Must be why I stick to the racing in a nice loonnnggg straight line----  | ||
| Newfie_buell |
Jeebus Tramp, What don't you know!!!!!! | ||
| Tramp |
I don't know, newf ....say...maybe that's IT! | ||
| Cochise |
I dropped my bike in a right handed turn the first time I had ever dropped my bike, and I was having trouble with right handeds already. I do make right handed turns, BETTER now, I think better than I make left turns. I think I do better in right handed turns because I hang off that side of the bike farther than I can the other. | ||
| Skyguy |
I am stronger on lefts. Mostly due to being scared of losing it into the oncoming lane.......... Must be because of just missing two cars head on when I blew a tire leaned way over in a right last summer. | ||
| Buelltroll |
I'm right handed. My lowside was on a left hander so there goes that theory. I think Tramp is right with the camber and angle thing. | ||
| Blake |
Right handers on a public road are more affected by obstructions preventing a rider from seeing clearly around/through the entire curve. Left hand turns, by virtue of the oncoming lane, provide much better visibility for seeing around/through the entire corner. The converse would be true for our friends in countries where convention is to drive on the left side of the road.  | ||
| New12r |
And downhill is nowhere near as fun in the twisties? Because going up hill you're under power and have more control over the bike. Your not under power? I smell a little white lie!! Just got done riding Barber and now have now fear of going Downhill! I had a harder time learning lefts, Two trips to the Dragon cured that problem. (damn the racers must be in hella good shape cuz I'm f***** BEAT) 250 miles at Barber and I am still recovering, I wonder the same thing. How do these guys do it? (Message edited by new12r on July 11, 2006) | ||
| Diablobrian |
I know why I have trouble with slow left turns.  | ||
| Smoke |
hey Charlie, the pros have a very serious training regimen. we have to go to a job every day and don't make the time for serious exercise. at least i don't. see ya next time. you should move up! tim | ||
| Littlebuggles |
A lot of students this summer have asked if it was odd for them to have an easier time with turning one way or the other. Seems like a pretty common event. Dry parking lot with minimal tar, practice turning circles both directions for a while, helps me feel more comfortable with my "weak" side. Have to make sure I'm turning my head far enough, if I don't I struggle with the turn... Downhill is also harder for me, when I work for smoothness and find a good rhythm it gets better. My controls require less input when my weight is forward. Suspension is more settled when we are on the gas going uphill. | ||
| Rocketman |
I don't understand this at all. I've never felt I'm better or worse at any corner direction. How do you know? What are you feeling that makes you think one corner direction is preferable to the other? Are you associating your understanding with low speed manoeuvring, like taking a 1st gear hairpin bend where you can feel the balance of the bike? Are you freaked by swooping corners that require more input than an open straightforward type corner, like say a pretty fast corner with a double apex? Is this perhaps nothing to do with the bike itself, maybe a psychological thing instead? Rocket | ||
| M1combat |
It's a psychological thing with most people. I read somewhere that it has to do with eye dominance as well. | ||
| Rocketman |
Combat, what is 'eye dominance'? You know the brain behaves like us humans have one view, exactly the same view out of two eyes? The brain doesn't control both eyes sight individually. It operates both eyes sight EXACTLY together, synchronized and in perfect harmony . Rocket | ||
| Captpete |
Opps, Sean. Better check on that one. I know from competition pistol shooting that you can take that dominant eye thing and with some practice, achieve voluntary control over what is normally an involutary controlled function. Once you manage this, there is no need to close one eye when shooting. You can train the brain to ignore the unwanted image. Then it's just part of gettin' into the zone. | ||
| Tramp |
here's how you assess eye dominance: look at an object across the room, with both eyes open. now, cover one eye. ddoes the object seem to dart abit to one side? try it with each eye, going faster, until you see the object 'appear' to move to one side. looking at it with only one of your eyes will make it appear to be in the same spot it wa sin when you had both eyes open, and with the other eye (only), it will appear to dart to one side. the eye which sees it in the same position that both eyes do is your dominant eye. | ||
| Slaughter |
Same question has been discussed among pilots. Almost all have a "preference" for direction of turning. All sorts of theories but no controlled experiments. Bottom line, it's natural. They tried separating people who fly pilot-in-command from left seat, front seat (tandem seating), right seat (helicopter) - and came up with pretty much the same mix regardless of "handedness" or dominant eye. Cavalry mounts/dismounts left (with few exceptions). On the dominant eye thingie (expanding on T*R*A*M*P's): with both eyes open, POINT to a distant fixed object - then while still pointing, close one eye... open it and then close the other. The eye that "sees" the finger pointing at the object is the dominant eye. Nothing to do with right-handedness or left-handedness. I used to do competitive target shooting. Knew a few right-handers with left-eye dominance. In autoloading rifles, could be a problem with shell ejection when shooting off the left shoulder (left eye dominance) though most rifles have a deflector (the "bump" on the right side of the M-16 upper receiver) - some eject forward (H&K) | ||
| Tramp |
Well-done, S-Laughter. shooting pool, surfing, batting, etc., all have positions dictated by eye dominance. with pilots and motorcyclists, though, (yep- I fly) where the operator isn't restricted to simple yaw steering, inclination brings into play cerebro-hemispheric dominance. cyclists, aviators, sailors, speed skaters and snowboarders share an extra element in our steering.... inclination... which requires higher utility of cerebral asymmetry. | ||
| Cowboy |
Now I feel better It was driveing crazy,my left turns are better than my right turns, now as I under stand it. It is because I am blind in my right eye. | ||
| Johnnylunchbox |
Cowboy, I think Tramp said something about your cerebro-hemorrhagic dominatrix. | ||
| Tramp |
Good thing you only practiced self-abuse with one hand.... I now turn a blind eye to this thread | ||
| Rocketman |
Ah, so that's eye dominance. My comments were based on what my eye consultant has been feeding me over the past two years (since the Thyroid Eye Disease thing). Which means I'm probably totally wrong for not listening properly. Our brain behaves like we only have one eye, not two. The brain does not operate both eyes as separate items. That is how come two eyes work in perfect harmony. I see (no pun intended lol) eye dominance has to do with the individual eyes performance. Like one testicle is larger than the other, as is one breast, it is logical that one eye performs better than the other. That's your dominant eye then, or is that just your eye with the best sight? Here's looking at you kids! Rocket |
