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Diablobrian
| Posted on Thursday, July 06, 2006 - 01:39 pm: |
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Chris Ulrich has a positive review of XBRR in the new issue of Road Racing World. |
Skully
| Posted on Thursday, July 06, 2006 - 01:55 pm: |
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Hey Brian, Which month? Thanks, Keith |
Diablobrian
| Posted on Thursday, July 06, 2006 - 02:05 pm: |
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August issue. You can't miss it. The article is the first thing you see when you open the cover. |
99buellx1
| Posted on Thursday, July 06, 2006 - 02:07 pm: |
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It would be nice if RRW would send me a copy! I've tried three times to get a subscription with no luck. Aaarrggg. |
Hattori_hanzo
| Posted on Friday, July 07, 2006 - 03:25 pm: |
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Look at the headline...I find it funny they have to defend a positive article about the XBRR by stating their not insane!
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Josh_cox
| Posted on Friday, July 07, 2006 - 07:38 pm: |
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I'll have to pick that one up! |
Buellgirlie
| Posted on Friday, July 07, 2006 - 10:52 pm: |
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so coool. cant wait to get a copy! D |
Blake
| Posted on Friday, July 07, 2006 - 11:37 pm: |
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Cool! I wonder... How long till the naysayers attack? Counting down?... 10, 9, 8, 7, . . .
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Blake
| Posted on Friday, July 07, 2006 - 11:41 pm: |
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BTW, please do get yourself a subscription to RRW! Best tech evaluations and track and road tests with ALL the specifications anywhere in moto-journaldom. www.roadracingworld.com |
Pwnzor
| Posted on Friday, July 07, 2006 - 11:45 pm: |
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I hate Buell. Buell sucks. The Earth is boiling over. Gnomes have stolen my underpants, and it's Erik Buell's and George Bush's fault. They are in cahoots, and I call shenanigans! |
Buellgirlie
| Posted on Friday, July 07, 2006 - 11:48 pm: |
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gnomes are wearing your underpants????? D |
M1combat
| Posted on Saturday, July 08, 2006 - 12:17 am: |
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No Dora... They're using them for TENTS!!! Oh the INSANITY!!! |
Buellgirlie
| Posted on Saturday, July 08, 2006 - 12:26 am: |
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stop making my ribs hurt, i need to sign off badweb!!!! D |
Mbsween
| Posted on Saturday, July 08, 2006 - 01:21 am: |
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Seesh, you two need more tv http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Underpants_Gnomes those gomes are some mean sum o beetches you gotta love the net, all the southpark documentation you can ever use! |
Buellgirlie
| Posted on Saturday, July 08, 2006 - 01:33 am: |
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(simulation of me laughing and hurting, laughing and hurting) D |
Jimidan
| Posted on Sunday, July 09, 2006 - 10:56 am: |
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It is not like I can run down to the local Walmart newstand and buy a single copy of RRW...so, can somebody copy that article on here? Or a synopsis? Anybody? The front cover was nice reading though... BTW, if ANYBODY still thinks that the XBRR is an illegal bike...they are "insane", and Chris Ulrich knows it. jimidan |
Diablobrian
| Posted on Sunday, July 09, 2006 - 02:47 pm: |
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Synopsis: As delivered the new production RR was softly sprung for Chris Ulrich's tastes. A "tired" RR that had been races and had +200 mi on it was sprung better for his weight and made him feel more confident in the handling, but didn't have the "umph" Maybe this was the bike that the Vallejo guys were running? (buell_dynoguy) C.U. felt immediately at home on the Buell, whereas he had to adapt to the 600RR that he tested in Utah. C.U. feels the chassis is brilliant on the XBRR, flicking from full left to full right with ease. C.U. was impressed with the TORQUE of the XBRR. He was less impressed with the fuel injection mapping, it was quickly changed, but he felt it was too fiddly with a bit of a "hiccup" C.U. loved the brakes. bottom line. He felt the XB fit him better than the CB and it was more stable in the corners, but he was allowed to change settings on the Buell and was not allowed to do any changes to the Honda. The Buell was better at turning in every way, and gave great feedback to the rider (we already knew that from our own personal experiences ) |
Court
| Posted on Sunday, July 09, 2006 - 06:17 pm: |
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>>>if ANYBODY still thinks that the XBRR is an illegal bike. History. That was 5 days of the internet celebrating what makes it the internet. |
Blake
| Posted on Sunday, July 09, 2006 - 06:28 pm: |
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No it wasn't. I say it was 6 days. How can you say it was only 5 days? You are obviously a mouthpiece for the internet. |
Blake
| Posted on Sunday, July 09, 2006 - 06:45 pm: |
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Brian, Thanks for taking time to summarize. This is very cool. The story on the brakes particularly is so very gratifying. As Chris Ulrish also observes, all four professional racers/riders (Mike Cicotto, Steve Crevier, Jeremy McWilliams and yes even Don Canet) at TWS when I asked them how the brakes performed gave them a solid thumbs up. Jeremy, being ever the extremely thoughtful and analytical professional, expounded further; he equated the ZTL-2 braking performance to being in his experience most akin to that of Moto-GP bikes and less like more conventional Superbike brakes that are less aggressive in nature. I reckon this will twist up the naysayers into all kinds of knots of denial. But it is the cold hard truth. WAY TO GO BUELL!!! You DESIGNED AND built a $30K FX racing machine that outhandles and outbrakes the $300,000+ FX machines of the big factories! WAY TO GO BUELL!!! Good things are surely on the way for Buell motorcycles in racing. Those who years ago predicted the demise of Buell may not agree. They'll be wrong again. |
Diablobrian
| Posted on Sunday, July 09, 2006 - 07:05 pm: |
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I'm waiting for Jeremy to put the Buell on the podium. He believes the bike is capable. If he didn't believe in the bike and in the Buell way of doing things he could have just walked away after Daytona. He didn't. I agree, good things are coming. Very good things. My wife is tired of hearing about it. She thinks Buell should hire me for a public relations job I keep telling her that I wouldn't take the job. I know that Erik and John are going to hire me to be an engineer before it's all over But if I have to start in public relations to get there I'm game if you're reading this Erik! I was serious about what I told you and the H.R. director at homecoming! |
Jima4media
| Posted on Sunday, July 09, 2006 - 11:56 pm: |
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"You DESIGNED AND built a $30K FX racing machine that outhandles and outbrakes the $300,000+ FX machines of the big factories!" When did that happen? In all of the races that I have seen, the XBRR has been 3 seconds per lap slower than the leaders. And then they died, with the exception of the 22nd place finish of Shawn Reilly at Infineon, and the 14th place finish for Dave Estok at Road America. (Message edited by jima4media on July 10, 2006) |
Blake
| Posted on Monday, July 10, 2006 - 12:39 am: |
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Please see the topical article. Professional review of XBRR with comparison versus Honda FX CBR600RR. Headline for article states...
quote:"Better Than Its Results: Riding the Surprisingly Good Buell XBRR on the Racetrack, and No, We're Not Insane!"
Better brakes, better handling, better than the results. I knew it wouldn't take long. Did you see how Jeremy McWilliams described the XBRR ZTL-2 brake performance? Most like the brakes of MotoGP machines he said. More aggressive than the brakes of World Superbike racing machines he said. (Message edited by Blake on July 10, 2006) |
Jima4media
| Posted on Monday, July 10, 2006 - 02:38 am: |
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I'll give you the performance of the ZTL2 brakes. How about the performance of the motor? You know, the part the makes you go fast, or not. |
Jimidan
| Posted on Monday, July 10, 2006 - 10:47 am: |
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Jima4media sez: "When did that happen? In all of the races that I have seen, the XBRR has been 3 seconds per lap slower than the leaders." Jimi: If the handling and brakes are not an issue, then what is? I am not sure I understand why the motor would cause a "3 second per lap" (at Road America?) difference. I watched the Daytona 200 race and practice/qualifying, and I can tell you that McWilliams and company on the XBRR was just as fast as the top qualifiers on that looooong back straight away. Nobody on any other FX bike walked away from them on the straights. So where did they lose the time? |
Jscott
| Posted on Monday, July 10, 2006 - 12:17 pm: |
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slipper clutch - Read the Infineon FX report section. Does anyone know if they have developed their slipper clutch yet? |
Blake
| Posted on Monday, July 10, 2006 - 01:01 pm: |
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Jim, I think the issues currently hindering Buell XBRR racers versus the factory FX teams are seat time/setup and the lack of a slipper clutch. The engine seems to be fine, no one is passing the XBRR on the straights. Then there are the tires. Dunlop rules AMA Racing. Tires are as important or more important as anything else on the bike. |
Blake
| Posted on Monday, July 10, 2006 - 01:03 pm: |
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On the high speed tracks, lacking a 6th gear is also probably a hinderance, at least on the start as we witnessed for Daytona this year. |
Jscott
| Posted on Monday, July 10, 2006 - 03:09 pm: |
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As long as they can get the same Pirelli tires that the M4/Emgo Suzuki team uses they should be OK on the rubber front. I agree with Blake that the majority of it is seat/setup time. Unfortunately that is the one thing they will not be easy to overcome with current funding levels. (Message edited by JScott on July 10, 2006) |
Jima4media
| Posted on Monday, July 10, 2006 - 06:06 pm: |
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So all the Buell teams have to do is change the clutch and tires and they can win at Laguna, with a little more practice? There are no real straight-aways there. That is good to know. |
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