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Glitch
Posted on Saturday, July 08, 2006 - 09:17 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

What is your opinion of #825?
http://www.xtremereplay.com/Download/Use_Later/Motard_-_Xtreme_Recall_dwnld.wmv
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Cyclonecharlie
Posted on Saturday, July 08, 2006 - 12:27 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Glitch,
Don't watch alot of super motard, but am very involved in Dirttrack racing. He seems to be an acomplished rider who is very focused and runs good lines. But I don't think he's going to get high marks for sportsmenship.It's hard to tell from the film how much of his actions were prevoked by the rider behind,but he doesn't seem to have any Quams about retaleation.
Are you either one of these riders? There has to be a certain amount give and take between riders and a riders reputation will sway perception.(nice film)....Charlie
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Glitch
Posted on Saturday, July 08, 2006 - 12:56 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

No not me.
I got the vid off of a super moto site.
I have found out though, that in the dirt part of the track, most anything goes, on the pavement, road race rules apply.
The kid #825, is playing by the rules, although at the ragged edge.
I asked just because it was a heated debate on the super moto site.
And just wondered if people here in the road race world would be as amazed as I at the battle.
Turns out the #825 is a teenager!
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Cyclonecharlie
Posted on Saturday, July 08, 2006 - 03:32 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Glitch,
There are unwritten rules in the dirt also and if it becomes his normal style of racing, there are others that might take him to task(tolarance has it's limitations)
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Djkaplan
Posted on Saturday, July 08, 2006 - 03:55 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

I've never raced supermoto, but I raced motocross for years and everything I saw was typical of pretty much any track I ever raced on. I've been brake checked on my ass a couple times at end of a heated debate, and I've been that guy stuffing someone in a corner.
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Escham
Posted on Saturday, July 08, 2006 - 04:08 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

I like his style of riding. It isn't pretty, but it looked like the red rider was getting into his business as well.
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Mxer83
Posted on Saturday, July 08, 2006 - 04:28 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

I raced moto- cross for 12 years and got into riders that were way dirtier than that !!!!!!!
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Buellfighter
Posted on Saturday, July 08, 2006 - 09:08 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

I thought it was good hard racing. Helmet cam guy just couldn't put a line together to get around 825 and 825 wasn't giving it to him. Dirty racing would have been if he took helmet cam guy out. Seems to me helmet cam guy was the one getting a little desperate towards the end of the race!
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Lost_in_ohio
Posted on Saturday, July 08, 2006 - 09:31 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

thx for the link glitch really enjoyed it.

As a guy who raced go karts for a couple of years I have seen it too often.

I looked to me like 825 was protecting the leader for some reason. He should have blown right past him. It did start as hard racing but got kinda ugly. The trailer did nudge him a couple of times, but their lines where way different around the course and kept crossing......I know that drove me crazy a few times.
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M1combat
Posted on Tuesday, July 11, 2006 - 11:37 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Didn't look to me like 825 did anything un-toward... I would have been a little bothered by the helmet cam guy too. Good racing.
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Thansesxb9rs
Posted on Thursday, July 13, 2006 - 12:19 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

I raced motocross for quite a few years and the helmet cam guy was just trying to find a way around #825. That was good clean racing he just got to excited and ended up going down. Go watch some pro motocross racing and this will look like childs play. If I was the helmet cam guy I would have been doing the same thing if not I probably would have been pushing #825 a little harder in the corners and not been so nice. Rubbing is racing and did you not see 825 pushing it hard to cut cam guy off once he had an inside line that was clean and try to take his front wheel out. This is the fun part of motocross and supercross that you never seen in sportbike racing.
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Jerseyguy
Posted on Thursday, July 13, 2006 - 08:48 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

I ran enduros, hare scrambles, motocross, et al and that looked like good hard racing to me. Cam guy was pressing real hard and 825 was riding his lines no matter what. Better to race the track than the other riders when you can. 825 was fairly predictable and I'd have tried to use that to get around him if I were the cam guy. No harm no foul IMHO.
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Bomber
Posted on Thursday, July 13, 2006 - 09:39 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

pretty much SOP for flattracking type racing -- aggressive, certainly, but not out of the ordinary -- as this form of racing eveloves, I'm sure the range of sportsmanlike behavior will become more well defined (I sure wouldn't want to be a roadracer thrown into the fray with a bunch of MX and TT racers!)

you ain't SEEN racing til you've watched three or four guys abrest dive into turn one at The Mile --
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Road_thing
Posted on Thursday, July 13, 2006 - 10:05 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

I didn't see anything wrong with 825's riding, either. He was taking the same lines every lap, it didn't look to me like cam guy could figure out a way around him.

Cam guy pulled abreast a couple of times, and it looks like he bumped 825 pretty hard at about 8:50, just after they left the pavement, and 825 left the inside line and blocked cam guy on the outside, but it looked to me like cam guy pushed 825 off his line, so I don't think I could fault 825 for that one.

Cool video!

rt
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Drift
Posted on Thursday, July 13, 2006 - 12:41 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Fighter!!
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