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Johnnylunchbox
Posted on Monday, June 19, 2006 - 10:14 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

My warranty on my '04 12R is going to expire next month. I've been toying with the idea of getting an extended warranty. I put about 3k miles per year on the 12R.

If I get it, in your collective experience, what are some things that are NOT covered or may have been problematic getting HD to cover?

Essentially is it a worthy investment, or have most found it to be unneeded? Also, is the price negotiable?
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Cochise
Posted on Monday, June 19, 2006 - 10:48 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

what are some things that are NOT covered

I am in no way a specialist, but in my experience, it has been they only cover the parts that DON'T break. That was the way, at least on an old '98 Pontiac Grand Prix GTP with an extended "Bumper to Bumper" warranty. I had a Headlight lense that broke and fell out, but guess what, they didn't cover it.
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Natexlh1000
Posted on Monday, June 19, 2006 - 10:51 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Wheels are not covered.

I think all warrantees are voided if you "race it" on a track day.
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Tramp
Posted on Monday, June 19, 2006 - 11:41 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

don't get the warranty.
current 'data points' suggest that buells won't last longer than 30k. trade it in for a bmw, pronto.
better truck it to the dealership.
could you pick me up and gimme alift to the atheltic footwear outlet, while you've got the pickemup fired up?
I'll be the barefoot guy standing outside the bar with the attack tabby.
scenery's here, wish you were beautiful-
tramp-a-palooza
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Oldog
Posted on Tuesday, June 20, 2006 - 12:21 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

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Buellgirlie
Posted on Tuesday, June 20, 2006 - 12:25 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

tramp, i found you some shoes!

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Buellgirlie
Posted on Tuesday, June 20, 2006 - 12:35 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

I think all warrantees are voided if you "race it" on a track day.

back on topic, who's talking about racing? i dont see it mentioned in the orig post?

and even if something does happen on the track, as long as it wasnt actual "racing" (that is, in a sanctioned series, that requires a race license, with money or contingency money to be won), i think it oughta be covered.

buell dealers are, in fact, sponsoring 4 days at the track this year, 2 at autobahn in IL and 2 at barber in AL. not that i'm sure that they'll cover something if it happens at the track, but the thought would be that its a safer environment for owners to try out what their buell is capable of.

i think there's a parallel between people who want to try their motorcycle on a track and people who want to try their SUV off-road.....

from my years in automotive off-road - warranty is often denied to people who actually use or have modified their vehicles for off-road usage. however, the federal law states:
The Magnuson-Moss Warranty Act (15 U.S.C. 2302(C))

This federal law regulates warranties for the protection of consumers. The essence of the law concerning aftermarket auto parts is that a vehicle manufacturer may not condition a written or implied warranty on the consumers using parts or services which are identified by brand, trade, or corporate name (such as the vehicle maker's brand) unless the parts or service are provided free of charge. The law means that the use of an aftermarket part alone is not cause for denying the warranty. However, the law's protection does not extend to aftermarket parts in situations where such parts actually caused the damage being claimed under the warranty. Further, consumers are advised to be aware of any specific terms or conditions stated in the warranty which may result in its being voided. The law states in relevant part:

No warrantor of a consumer product may condition his written or implied warranty of such product on the consumers using, in connection with such product, any article or service (other than article or service provided without charge under the terms of the warranty) which is identified by brand, trade or corporate name... (15 U.S.C. 2302(C)).

see what happens when i have too much time on the internet?
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Oldog
Posted on Tuesday, June 20, 2006 - 12:53 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Can you translate that to english from lawyer?
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Djkaplan
Posted on Tuesday, June 20, 2006 - 07:53 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

When my shock crapped out all it's oil 14 months into the 3 year extended warranty... guess what? It wasn't covered under the extended warranty.

The only thing my extended warranty provided was peace of mind that if anything catastrophic happened, it would have been covered... maybe.
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Bomber
Posted on Tuesday, June 20, 2006 - 10:02 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

suggest you get a copy of the paperwork, and either read it yourself, or ask a legally-oriented person to do it for ya -- lots of data saying this or that wasn't covered, that you have to file under the light of a blue moon, and so on --

bottom line, the warranty is not a cheap purchase -- research it before you buy it, talk to your dealer, then make your decision

these things have saved some folks serious dough -- and done' nothing except lighten the pockets of others -- the biggest data point to check is what's a "wear item" -- brake pads and oil won't be covered, but shocks?

lastly, be prepared to maintain extensive maintenance records if you do get the ext war . . . ..
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Gowindward
Posted on Tuesday, June 20, 2006 - 10:34 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

I would want to know how much the warranty cost. Then look at the cost of the most common failures that happen with the bikes during the expected mileage during the covered warranty period. The warranty guys surely already have that data, because they are making the bet with you.

How many miles on the bike? Have you had any warranty claims under the factory warranty?

My '04 12R has 25,500 miles on it. Warranty is up at the end of August. To this date the only warranty items I have had are both head housings cracked, and the front isolator rubber failed. Oh and a relay, which I replaced myself for $5. That's less than $200 in parts. Not much of a risk so far, if that's all you had to fix in the future.
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Buellgrrrl
Posted on Tuesday, June 20, 2006 - 12:24 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

The warranty may be a good deal if you put on a lot of miles, don't do anything to void it, and have a good dealer near where your Buell dies. I paid $900 for the 7 year warranty and in the 4th year it had already paid for itself. But I put on 10,000 miles a year- at 3k miles a year your Buell will only have 21K on it by the time a 7 year warranty runs out. The price is negotiable, but if you have to pay the list price of $1500 or so for the warranty it's unlikely anywhere near that much stuff will break in the next 18K miles... Then again it is a HD product. So for your situation the extended warranty is probably a bad deal.
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Johnnylunchbox
Posted on Tuesday, June 20, 2006 - 05:36 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

I think with the amount of miles I put on this bike, it may be wiser to just invest the money that I would have paid on a extended warranty and save it for later if necessary. I put most of my miles on my Concours and it has the balance of a 3 year unlimited mileage warranty.

Hey Tramp, some of the Concours guys have 300k+ miles on their scoots. Kind of makes your S2 look like a spring chicken don't it?
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Iamike
Posted on Tuesday, June 20, 2006 - 06:09 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Is there a co-payment (like $50) on the extended warranty? Take that into consideration on the value.
A buddy with a Harley found that out on his Dyna when the proverbial rocker gasket leak happened during a little jaunt. We waited for hours at a dealer then he had to pay his $50. It kind of cut into a trip we had because he hated to have oil leaking on his bike. A couple of years later I got back at him when I misjusdged how much rubber I had left on the rear and we sat for several hours in Albuquerque.
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Buelltroll
Posted on Tuesday, June 20, 2006 - 08:19 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Yes there is a 50$ co pay.
I just paid 50$ for 650$ worth of work.
extended warranty FINALLY usefull.
Then again I also just paid 240$ out of my pocket that WASN'T covered.
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