| Author | Message | ||
     Brineusaf |
Ok, so to make this as short as possible: A rear turn-signal wire was cut by my seat latch and now none of my signals work, after repairing the break. I checked the fuse, it's good. What I am wondering is if the relay might have been blown..as nothing "clicks" when I push the switch, just simply nothing, not even the clicking noise anymore. Any help would be appreciated as it is the first sunny day I've had in 2 weeks. Thanks! | ||
| Josh_ |
You've checked the bulbs? By relay do you mean the flasher unit? Neither side works? Might just be the flasher unit. | ||
| Brineusaf |
Ya sure the flasher unit. No I haven't checked the bulbs yet. Will do that right now. Where is the flasher unit? is there any way (without multimeter) to tell if it is fried? | ||
| Josh_ |
Hmmm. Got a manual? I can't tell you where it is (RS and Blast myself), but I'll bet the manual has a procedure to test and of course will tell the location. If you have some wire, alligator clips and a bulb/socket/12v device you could probably test it straight off the battery with a simple circuit. Last flasher I tested was for a 6v circuit, but if you can find the manual or wiring diagram I'll help if I can. | ||
| Brineusaf |
I found the flasher relay.. under the flyscreen. Bulbs were good. I think it is the relay because it isn't clicking like it is supposed to. | ||
| Brineusaf |
If I just buy a new relay, will it just blow again, or was it caused by the wire being broke and possibly grounding out to subframe? | ||
| Brineusaf |
None of the dealers around me have one available until middle of next week. It's only like a 20$ part, but the wait is going to kill me. Guess I'll just be using hand signals. | ||
| Josh_ |
Sorry, missed the question. I would assume the break damaged it, but I would make sure the dealership orders two just in case (would hate to have to wait for another shipment) Take the unit into autoparts stores and "other" brand bike shops and see if they have a comparable one. (Message edited by josh_ on June 02, 2006) | ||
| Brineusaf |
Good idea, I asked the parts guy at the HD/Buell if I could use a different relay, and he said no; but if I can find one then it'll be good. In the meantime I'll be sure to order two. | ||
| Kccyclone |
Kyle, I used a flasher unit for a ford temporarily while on the road once....It was the only one that matched plug wise, and my blinkers flashed pretty fast, but it worked in a pinch. | ||
| Brineusaf |
Alright... I'm gonna go check out my old saturn and see if it comes close. Thanks cyclone. | ||
| Cowboy |
I have had problems with the grounding system on my X1 I have ran extra ground wire for 1. ECM 2. head light 3. switch for the fuel pump. Have not had a failure in last 30,000 miles | ||
| Chasespeed |
Brine, I am pretty sure its a basic auto relay, just finding what you need for the loading...that is the key. Most of them, are semi universal... go to a parts store, and you will only see like 20 different flashers(if that many), to cover, just about every car/truck/suv on teh road. Typically, if its flashing fast, you dont have enough draw on the circuit..(easy way to know if you have a blown signal lamp), and if it SLOW, you have too much draw..sometimes, it will just stay on.. Anyway, I dont know if you have a plug, BUT, if the bike is outta warranty, I would find the values for the flasher unit, AND see if there is a x-refrence to that plug... If not, grab aflasher with the same values....cut the plug, and solder on spade connetors(they fit over the terminals) I try to convert as much stuff as possible, to autostore stuff..wander into walmart in teh middle of the nite etc.. ANYWAY, Brine, post that PN off that flasher, and I will dig through my crossrefernce goodies, and we'll see if there is a more easily accessible equivilant.. Man, what a bunch of useless banter I can rattle off when I cant sleep....haha..hopefully the bike will be back on the road today, I will take a nap..adn disapear into the sunset(literally, gonna ride west) this evening..maybe ride back home tomorrow... Chase | ||
| Al_lighton |
You need a three position ISO, not JSO, flasher. If you plan on installing anything other than stock turn signals in the future, you may want to purchase this: http://www.americansportbike.com/shop/cgi-bin/cp-app.cgi?usr=51F5895557&rnd=3140 519&rrc=N&affl=&cip=69.160.135.44&act=&aff=&pg=prod&ref=16086&cat=&catstr= It will flash at the right rate even with LED turn signals. Most automotive flashers will flash fast or freak out altogether with the OEM automotive flasher or equivalent. | ||
| Chasespeed |
 This is what the tuber flasher specs are.. Photo: Part number: 01332701 Volts: 12 Watts: 20 (2x10) Terminals: 3 Lamp failure: CON Bracket: CON Mine is from Guilera Electronic, from Spain.. p/n 01332701 If you can get me some info off a XB flasher, we can go from there.... Chase (Message edited by chasespeed on June 03, 2006) (Message edited by chasespeed on June 03, 2006) | ||
| Chasespeed |
Huh, my KZ used the same flasher as Supra.. But... Anyway, that is some info for ya.. They did list too many flashers on their site, which confirms my thoughts...another bike out there must use that flasher.. Chase | ||
| Brineusaf |
Sorry, been busy riding without signals! First... I am not using stock signals, which might have helped cause the failure; and this is the same reason why I am avoiding "warranty" work, as I don't want to drive somewhere just to have them tell me "no".  These are the signals I am using. I have my mother-in-law in the livingroom at the moment. If you's need info from the lights I will do my best tomorrow. Additionally, I have an 05 manualat the moment (mine is 06) but I couldn't locate and numbers for the flasher relay, then again someone kept knocking on the bathroom door so I was distracted. I appreciate any help you's can give me. Note: The lights were flashing at the normal rate after I changed the lights. | ||
| Brineusaf |
That pic is before I wrapped all the wiring. Everything looks like it came like this from the factory now. | ||
| Brineusaf |
Ok.. so as always... I went out to look at the bike anyways. On the Front: Guilera Electronic Flasher 12V. 20W. 01 3327 01 Made in Spain A 72289 On Top: ABS On Side: 10805 07/05 | ||
| Josh_ |
Oh, you mean this from them You could drop them a line : guilera@guilera.com and ask about other motocicletas that use that part or maybe local suppliers. (Message edited by josh_ on June 03, 2006) | ||
| Natexlh1000 |
I have had my X1 flasher apart and it's pretty interesting in there. There is an actual relay and a driver circuit. The reason that I had mine apart was the outer plastic cover rattled loose at the mounting tab. I epoxied it up as a temporary fix (35,000 miles ago). If you're patient, you can pop the cover off and look in there for damage. If you're BOTH patient and lucky, you might be able to repair it for free! | ||
| Brineusaf |
Since it's going to have to come off sooner or a later I'll try to crack it open here in a few minutes. I suck at soldering though, so hopefully it isn't anything too bad. Josh, I sent them an email asking them to point me in the direction of a local retailer who has them in stock, and what other motorcycles/scooters use this part. Thanks for all the help. Will be sure to update this when I find something out. | ||
| Chasespeed |
Well, its the same flasher for tubers, as XBs.. What do you wanna bet a sportty takes the same flahser? Cant check today... Unless, someone has a sportty...and wants to check the flasher numbers.. Chase | ||
| Brineusaf |
Alright, well the stores are closed tomorrow (German Holiday) so I won't be able to go anywhere to buy one until Tues, maybe anyways. Thanks guys! | ||
| Brineusaf |
Alright, I took it apart. I couldn't visibly see any damage. Although it appears the board inside of the box contains a fuse, I couldn't determine whether or not it was good. I am going to rest with my original determination though, as I am not sure if the relay has the correct "smell" to it. Hopefully I will be able to truly determine this within the next few days. | ||
| W3w3072 |
I have a 1996 Triumph Daytona that uses the same Guilera flasher. Mine will flash normal on the right side and dims the head and tail light on the left (no turn signal illuminated). I opened the flasher and can see a component burned. Local Triumph dealer says $65.00 for the relay. I sure would like to know what might cause this as I don't want to burn another at that price any suggestions? |
