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Pdxs3t
Posted on Saturday, May 13, 2006 - 09:46 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

I have found an old Krammer guitar that has a Floyd Rose II on it that I am cleaning up for use.

I pretty much have the bridge all cleaned up and ready to go back together but I am at a stopping point.

The string saddles either have numbers or dots on the bottom of the saddle. The number or number of dots dictate what string the saddle will be associated with. I have no clue, does anyone here at Badweb know?

I have called 3 guitar shops here in Portland/Vancouver and none of the have a clue?
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Bertman
Posted on Sunday, May 14, 2006 - 03:11 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

For the last couple of years I have needed to tear my guitar apart so I could straighten the neck and wet sand the body out, but have lacked motivation. To help out a fellow Badweb member is a good start for my refurb.

I can't tell any difference in saddle widths even though the strings go from thin to thick as they progress, but there are three "pairs" of saddles to match based solely on height. My 1st and 6th string saddles have nothing on them. The 2nd and 5th string saddles have a "2" on it and are slightly taller. The 3rd and 4th string saddles are the tallest and have a "3" on the bottom. The whole idea is to make an arch like the neck radius.

Even though the Floyd II was the cheap bridge, I like it. And it sure as heck beats the stock old strat bridge for staying in tune the first big dive bomb you put on it.
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Jerry_haughton
Posted on Sunday, May 14, 2006 - 06:55 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Pdx, so's that you know exactly who you're dealing with, here's the Bertman:

this was taken here at the 'Dome on Friday May 5th, while we were escorting Madduck thru Cali. that's my new Garrison that Bertman is holding.

the entire time i was posting pix that morning on BADWEB from the ride up from Bartels the day before, Bertman was sitting behind me, playing my guitar.

this was the first time i'd ever heard my Garrison. sure, i can twang on the strings, but i can't (yet) play a note. to FINALLY hear my guitar was absolutely mesmerizing. it has a beautiful sound, rich and warm, and it was with some reluctance that we finally slipped it back in its case so we could get on with the day.

Brett, thanks for the gentle serenade that morning. sure wish you lived a little closer, i'd hire you for some lessons.

and thanks for helping my buddy Jim. he's been like a brother to me, and it's quite cool that you two have finally "met."

ride to lean,
FB : )
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Mfell2112
Posted on Sunday, May 14, 2006 - 11:22 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Hey Bertman that old Strat bridge works well if it is set up properly. On my old strat I removed the stock string trees and threw on some roller trees. I pulled the stock nut and replaced it with a Graphlon nut. The key to running a stock Strat bridge is to eliminate friction points. The nut and the string trees are the two main friction points on a Strat. When you hit the bar the strings get hung up in the nut and or string trees and cause the guitar to go out of tune. Now you add some locking tuners and you cut the nut one size larger up from the gauge strings you would normally use. I run 10s so my nut is cut for 11s. I like the Strat bridge because the strings are mounted into the body of the guitar versus a Floyd Rose which the strings set on top of the body. Those springs that attach to the bridge block on a stock Strat bridge act as a reverb chamber which is a part of the classic Strat sound.

Regards

Mike
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Bertman
Posted on Sunday, May 14, 2006 - 12:12 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Agreed Mike, ya gotta get the strings to return back to where they started. The one that I have the Floyd II on is my Frankenstrat guitar. It had a stock style bridge on it for a while, but even with graphite nut and trees it still went out of tune a little too often for my tastes. I know I could have set it up better, but I got a deal on the Floyd and just modified the guitar for that. I have a real strat that stays stock though.

Jerry, isn't it about time for another day off yet?

(Message edited by bertman on May 14, 2006)
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Jerry_haughton
Posted on Sunday, May 14, 2006 - 12:32 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

indeed it is. : )
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Djkaplan
Posted on Sunday, May 14, 2006 - 03:43 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

"to FINALLY hear my guitar was absolutely mesmerizing. "

That's a memory that I forgot all about with my guitar until you mentioned it. I recall now hearing my first guitar being played by a competent guitarist and thinking, "WOW".

That's a really precious memory from 1979... thanks for dredging it up for me.
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Pdxs3t
Posted on Sunday, May 14, 2006 - 09:24 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Bertman...Thank you, that is just what I was looking for.

The saddles on this Kramer I picked up were all messed up to start, now it is in fine working order and in the hands of my oldest Josh. Will post a couple of pix's here in a bit.

Ferris, did you enjoy your day off or what? : )

JC
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Pdxs3t
Posted on Sunday, May 14, 2006 - 09:43 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)


put brief text here to describe your pic

Here is a shot of Kyle working his Jackson just a bit. Today was his Birthday (turned 13) and this pretty blue guitar was his birthday present.


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And this is Josh, the proud owner of a revamped (with a little help from Bertman) Kramer. He is really digging the Floyd Rose.

Next step is a couple of decent amps for my boys...And me too! : )
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Bertman
Posted on Monday, May 15, 2006 - 01:23 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Way cool Jim!

Heavy Metal Baby!!
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Pcmodeler
Posted on Monday, May 15, 2006 - 09:21 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

I believe that's a Kramer ST600, isn't it? If so, it's a later model when Kramer was trying to revamp the company after some failures. The guitars were made in Korea (even though the neck plates still said Jersey) if I remember right. They didn't sound bad and they have considerable weight to the body. I actually had one exactly like that but sold it a few weeks ago. You didn't buy that on ebay by any chance??
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Jerry_haughton
Posted on Monday, May 15, 2006 - 09:32 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Ferris, did you enjoy your day off or what?

well, me 'n D worked from 2 a.m. 'til 10 a.m., then jumped on BOB and went for a spin. rode north and found a shady spot overlooking the north fork of the Kern River and had a nice picnic lunch.

so...we put in an 8-hour work day (slackers!) and THEN took the day off.

does that count??? ;)

FB

ps: great pix. : )
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Jerry_haughton
Posted on Monday, May 15, 2006 - 09:56 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

That's a really precious memory from 1979... thanks for dredging it up for me.

you're welcome. : )

FB
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Pdxs3t
Posted on Monday, May 15, 2006 - 03:42 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Ferris...Yep that does count!

Bertman...Thanks again!

Pcmodler...Nope, didn't pick it up off EBay. Found it at one of the pawn shops here in town. I think it is a ST600, not too sure though, there is no identification markings on it.

Its actually a decent sounding guitar for a plywood body guitar. When I bought it, I was hoping that it was going to be a solid wood body but it wasn't.

I still keep my eyes out for a american Kramer. Use to see them everywhere but these days people have caught on.
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Pcmodeler
Posted on Monday, May 15, 2006 - 03:45 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Looks like it has the binding, so it's a ST615. Here's a bit of history on it:

http://www.vintagekramer.com/company46.htm
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Pdxs3t
Posted on Monday, May 15, 2006 - 07:06 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Yep, it has the binding.

That is a really cool website, lots of really great info to be had.
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