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Rocketsprink
| | Posted on Sunday, March 12, 2006 - 08:53 pm: | 
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BTW, My real name is Rocco, hence the nick name. And I'm a Fire Sprinkler Fitter for a living. Hence the second part. |
Spike
| | Posted on Sunday, March 12, 2006 - 09:03 pm: |
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quote:In my opinion, It would be better to modify the racing XB's which people have been successfully running in races... instead of throwing millions into a program which created more unsolved problems at race time.
Um, what exactly do you think Buell was racing out there? Where do you think they go that frame? How about the wheels? The brakes?
News flash: Buell did start with an existing platform when developing the RR, then modified it to the extent of the rules. This is exactly how the import teams get their race bikes.
Just an aside- are you aware that you've nearly doubled your post count this weekend by bashing the XB-RR and the Buell brand? |
Cochise
| | Posted on Sunday, March 12, 2006 - 09:30 pm: |
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Yo Sprink, you work for the Simp..? |
Slowride
| | Posted on Sunday, March 12, 2006 - 09:57 pm: |
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just my 2cents but they interviewed the several racers prior to the run. Two of them commented on getting to the chance to run on $350,000 factory 600. It was nothing they ever experienced before. Stating how big of a thrill it was.
NEWS FLASH
XBRR for $30K
Another News Flash
Neither type of bike can be had at a dealer for street leagal running. All bikes running based on current models.
THE AMA-excuse me JMA up in arms over HONDA against Buell displacement! Factory HoSuYaKa Riders interviewed and contesting over rumors of not stock setups (ie. frames, engine case castings, etc). Not one person interviewed said I have fact only I HEARD or I was TOLD.
Conclusion.....
A bunch of BS that will be worked out, with no input from us.
Go Buell |
Thepup
| | Posted on Sunday, March 12, 2006 - 09:59 pm: |
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Rocketsprink,we are in the same line of work,I do some sprinkler work,mostly alarm and suppression work though. |
Rocketsprink
| | Posted on Monday, March 13, 2006 - 06:49 am: |
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Work out of Chicago Local 281. |
Halbard
| | Posted on Monday, March 13, 2006 - 10:24 am: |
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Yo Spike... youre right. I mostly lurked here before, and shall again hence forth.
Sorry you see me as "Buell Bashing"... I forgot that unless you yell BUELL CAN DO NOTHING WRONG, EVER! every sentence you are Buell bashing.
I was disappointed with the race results. I thought Buell pushing the rules to custom make a bike for this race was a mistake, instead of suporting the racing efforts of guys who have been on the track for years.
The frame? what are you smoking... ain't the same. The brakes... ain't the same. The wheel... really? walk into Harley, and tell them you want one... Custom made engines... all that cost more then $30,000 to design, let alone build. The bike was fully factory supported... just different book-keeping methods.
Sorry my opinion is different from yours. Obviously differances in opinion are not welcome to your type.
Bashing? jeeze dude... buy a dictionary, educate the mind. Differances in opinion do not constitute brand bashing. |
New12r
| | Posted on Monday, March 13, 2006 - 12:50 pm: |
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Buell calls me on a weekly basis to ask what I broke on the Street on my way to work so they know to fix that before the race. |
Spike
| | Posted on Monday, March 13, 2006 - 01:43 pm: |
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From Halbard:
quote:Sorry you see me as "Buell Bashing"... I forgot that unless you yell BUELL CAN DO NOTHING WRONG, EVER! every sentence you are Buell bashing.
Let's see . . .
quote:Why run the ZTL? they knew going in it's a problem...
quote:the 1340 cc engine could almost perform as well as other 600 cc bikes...
quote:This pile of steaming Harley crap
quote:some B.S. custom built, problem child race only bike...
It's not an issue of perception or differing opinion - that's bashing.
quote:The frame? what are you smoking... ain't the same. The brakes... ain't the same. The wheel... really? walk into Harley, and tell them you want one...
This has been covered in numerous threads. The frame is shared with the Lightning long and Ulysses, the brakes are ZTL with the 8-piston caliper used on FX bikes for the past year or so, the wheels are the same design as the stockers, except built from magnesium. Whether you can buy these exact parts from your local dealer or not is irrelevant, the point is that these parts are all based off of what you can buy at the local dealer. Pray tell- what does your idea of an XB modified to run with FX 600s look like? |
Ceejay
| | Posted on Monday, March 13, 2006 - 02:36 pm: |
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How long has Japan inc. been tweaking, tinkering, and toying with thier race set-ups? How long has Buell? |
Court
| | Posted on Monday, March 13, 2006 - 02:38 pm: |
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>>>>I forgot that unless you yell BUELL CAN DO NOTHING WRONG, EVER! every sentence you are Buell bashing.
That's an inaccurate statement. I have, in magazines and on the internet taken Buell to task numerous times. Buell has proven themselves, when the need arose, capable of screwing up as well as the big guys.
I will stress that wording and tone are a essential component of effective communication. Your tone seeks not to communicate, but to incite. Frankly, you started a brawl, not a discussion. Erik Buell and I have disagreed quite vehemently (we see the world from two widely disparate perspectives) but neither of us has ever done the "you knew it was screwed up anyway you idiot" chatter....it'd be counter-prodcutive.
As far as the "walk into a Harley-Davidson dealer" let me share an entertaining inside story.
During testing the BUELL RACING team trashed a rocker arm. No one had one. One of the guys jumped in the van, drove to the local HD dealer and was back at the track in under 30 minutes. Will all the parts be like that? Maybe not, but that's a fairly powerful example.
I fully expect race parts to available to buy (you'll see the pre-approval forms on the Buell website in .pdf form) in plenty of time to support the bikes being built. Trust me, Buell would far prefer to make the 8 piston calipers in quantities of 250 than 25.
Personally, I'd prefer you not lurk. We value your participation and the more opinions we have the clearer view of the world we have. I'd just try to use more effective wording and structure.
Court |
Buelluk
| | Posted on Monday, March 13, 2006 - 03:52 pm: |
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I can see the hypocrisy of Honda or Yamaha crying foul on the Buells when there were riders who were talking about $350K 600s..how close to stock is that , doesn't the R6/CBR600RR retail for around 10 grand...obviously a lot of high priced non-stock unobtainium in those bikes somewhere...and considering the condition Duhamel's CBR came out of the crash in, I think he has a force field around that . |
Thepup
| | Posted on Monday, March 13, 2006 - 07:02 pm: |
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Spike,the XBRR frame is a Firebolt frame with the sides from a Uly welded on,or thats how I remember it. |
Oldog
| | Posted on Monday, March 13, 2006 - 11:17 pm: |
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Court:
thanks for the story,
I think that the XB-RR is going to do well
I wonder what a honyazusaki fx bike costs in todays mini dollars.
I wonder why the elves chose a 5 speed box
for the XBRR
to the nay sayers, its easier to tear down than to build. |
Midknyte
| | Posted on Tuesday, March 14, 2006 - 10:54 am: |
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I wonder why the elves chose a 5 speed box
I recall reading somewhere for durability. |
Reepicheep
| | Posted on Tuesday, March 14, 2006 - 12:02 pm: |
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quote:I wonder why the elves chose a 5 speed box
Because they didn't have a peaky mess of a powerband to kludge in a fix for?  |
Oldog
| | Posted on Tuesday, March 14, 2006 - 01:01 pm: |
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As I have read this thread a number of conflicting "opinions" on what an oriental FX bike costs does any one KNOW?
beware of splinters..........} |
Oldog
| | Posted on Tuesday, March 14, 2006 - 01:05 pm: |
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I wonder what an oriental FX bike costs,
Does any one KNOW?
with all for the speculative banter passed off as facts
beware of splinters............ |
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