| Author | Message | ||
     Firebolt020283 |
i do apreciate it you "heavy hitters" are some of the main ones that made me feel at home here once before. I feel that i do use a bit of consideration when i ride. in town and populated areas i ride like a nice little law abiding citizen. But when i get on those curvy central texas back roads i tend to cut loose a bit. I am sorry if that is so wrong but it is my excape from life, like my crack for lack of a better comparison. When im on my motorcycle I think of nothing but me, the motorcycle, the road and the obstacles (ie curves, things in front of me like other cars which is rare were i ride) i feel a sence of zen on my bike. | ||
| Skyguy |
Firebolt, Welcome back form the pit! I am going to bat for you on three points. 1. Everyone that has ridden a motorcycle has at one time or another ridden it to fast for conditions somewhere. Anyone that says they have not are in denial. 2. I love my Buell but given some extra cash I would trade it in for the new YZF R-I LE in a second flat. 3. There is only such a thing as riding to fast for the following conditions. a: The safety of others on the road. b: The ticket you are willing to pay for. c. The amount of pain or risk you are willing to to suffer in the event of a crash. Personally I pick the times and places I am willing to play primarily to avoid the risk to others. I am single, no kids and almost no family so my personal level of acceptable risk is a little higher than most. | ||
| Firebolt020283 |
i actually seen one of those r1 le's on the show room floor the other day at the local yamaha shop. 18,000 is a little steep for me but i hear its worth every dime for the extras it has on it compared to the standard r1 and the paint job is real sharp. | ||
| Skyguy |
Firebolt I am so going to get skinned for this but...... At $18,000 it will rip the shorts right off the XBRR at half the price. My only complaint I can see about the bike is the tushy cooking underseat exhaust. Oh, and that I can't afford it. | ||
| Firebolt020283 |
you maybe right but you would still rather the xbrr. | ||
| Skyguy |
firebolt, Sorry but I dont quite understand what you said. "but you would still rather the xbrr". Rather the XBRR what? If you mean to say I would rather have a street legal 180hp XBRR that cost 18,000 you are correct. I ride a stock 9R and despite lots of racing and years of sport bikes I get pulled out of the big high speed sweepers by his stock 04 R-1. Not to mention I am riding at or near redline a lot. I love the "mystique" and style of the Buell but everytime I ride with a fast liter bike it causes me pain lol. | ||
| Lowflyer |
For the record, I never ridiculed or berated anyone in this thread. I admit scoffing at the buck-thirty on public roads, but I hold no judgement against the man. I only meant to point to the impracticality of sustaining such activity. I am also glad Firebolt stopped in. I apologize for my contribution to this thread. I will bow out and let the "heavy hitters" have at it.  | ||
| Jerry_haughton |
I apologize for my contribution to this thread. I will bow out and let the "heavy hitters" have at it. you've got nothing to apologize for. and besides, you may be one of the heavy hitters i was referring to...  | ||
| Firebolt020283 |
well see 150 hp buell with a $4000 suspention system seems so much more amazing than a r1 with that same suspention system. | ||
| Loki |
Firebolt, Your answer(the first part) is a little disturbing. IMHO you may be better served by getting on the track and into a more controlled situation. That is nothing more than my opinion formed from my experiences. I would venture that the majority of us find that sense of calm and purpose when we ride. | ||
| Loki |
Skyguy, 3d - the amount of pain and risk you are willing to put others thru. | ||
| Blake |
"At $18,000 (the LE R1) will rip the shorts right off the XBRR at half the price." Thanks for proving once again that ignorance is bliss. I hear Don Canet will have some interesting words about the XBRR in an upcoming issue. | ||
| Dana P. |
I kinda thought that was a great comparo.  | ||
| Jerry_haughton |
Blake, take your ridicule and berating elsewhere pal, it ain't appreciated here. . . . . . . . .  | ||
| Dana P. |
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| Blake |
JH, You on an R1 and me on an XBRR, racing venue of your choice. Bring it fool! | ||
| Josh_ |
Where can you buy a R1LE for $18k? Local shop shows $22k + setup/prep/ship. I'd rather get the black/black R1 (or R6) and put suspension components of my own choosing on it. 'course I've passed R1s on my S3T and my FJR. It's not just the bike. | ||
| Jerry_haughton |
JH, You on an R1 and me on an XBRR, racing venue of your choice. Bring it fool! ok then!!! up the Bostrom (Hwy 155), last dog to Glennville buys (and then I get to ride the RR on into Fountain Springs, so's i can smoke you like a cheap cigar for the SECOND time!) | ||
| Dbird29 |
I wouldn't think cheap cigars are very good. Ooohh I get it now. Nevermind. | ||
| Firebolt020283 |
i think i would pay money to see a r1 le and a xbrr go head to head it could be interesting. and the shop here told me $18,000 and i could take it home but i dont have 18 grand sitting around like that and im not to big on r1's i just had to see that one in person. | ||
| Skyguy |
Gosh Blake I hope you were just joking around with that ignorant fool thing. No one that knows me thinks me an ignorant fool. Nor would anyone that knows me dare say such a thing to my face....... An apology is in order....... | ||
| Dana P. |
Boy does that mean you beat people up over such a thing?? Man I thought I wasn't passive. | ||
| Skyguy |
Dana, It's been awhile but I am not known for being passive......... It is a by-product of always being the smallest guy in the room. (insert napolean complex here) I love a good passionate argument and can always remain passive until some •••••••• starts the name calling then I walk away. However an unsolicted insult such as Blakes will result in me no longer being nice just about every time. Of course people don't toss insults out like that in person especially to a total stranger. Blakes comment struck a nerve as I was not even involved in a debate with him. I have issues with people jumping up and flexing their muscles over the internet. Like I said I hope he just forgot the smiley face. that would make me really happy to hear. | ||
| Dana P. |
Skyguy I think Blake said that because you were comparing to motorcycles by price not for there intended use. They are apples to oranges. As far as people tossing out insults to strangers?? Gotta tell ya I do thats if they got it coming, hell I gotta bar to run. | ||
| Spreadem |
How on earth could anyone on this board know whether an XBRR could smoke an R1?? Raise your hand if you've ridden an XBRR....I think the count comes out to zero. SO... Skyguy: Please tell us WHY you think the way you do about which bike would win, with some stats maybe, and that will probably keep people from calling you ignorant. Blake: Please tell us what YOU know that would prove Skyguy's opinion to be inaccurate (i.e. 1/4 mile times, top speeds, etc...) and also why his opinion makes him ignorant. Disclaimer: I am totally, unequivocally neutral, and am on no one's side...I believe opinions can be wrong, but facts are always facts.  | ||
| Sandblast |
Skyguy, I would'nt get worked up, we are just talking motorcycles and I doubt Blake meant to really insult you or anyone else. A thick skin and a cheerful disposition are great things around here (like anywhere else). If the smileys are'nt there just add 'em in your head, nobody else will notice. | ||
| Skyguy |
Skyguy is not "worked up". Just felt like an insult that did not need to be tossed out. I have also had a record bad week (dealing with two good friends that are terminal) and am I feeling a litle raw around the edges. Spreadem, My guess that the new R-1 (LE only) is faster is based on Equal dry weight. Both bikes run Ohlins suspension. 35 more ponies on the R-1. When weight and suspension are equal power wins. Am I missing something? | ||
| Rocketsprink |
Yes, the rider. | ||
| Dana P. |
Yes you are comparing a bike that is a liter bike aimed at competing in pro level Super Stock to a non street legal bike that is aimed at competing in FX. | ||
| Oldog |
I Bet the R1 has a 6 speed box too. so you have a sky hi red line and a tall 6th gear I see top speeds in excess of 160 mph as being likely With the XBRR I was at a loss as to why a race bike did not have a 6 with enough top gear get 160 or better, but I am not an engineer so all I can offer is an opinion ( we know about those and bodily orfices )  |
