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Bikergoddess
Posted on Thursday, February 02, 2006 - 10:16 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

"I can understand though how grumpy a man can get, let alone a black man, in Milwaukee during the middle of Winter. Move South Mr. Anderson! ;) "

Amen! Although I'm not a black man, all this greyness drives a person mad...

However, I think we're going a little overboard on all the 'evil' comments. Some people take that a little more seriously than others. Now, I don't think anything is evil. But some make take that to mean a complete absence of good. And it might be offensive to them.

It might also be offensive to compare killing dogs to eat them with killing humans because they were considered impure.

Laura
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Skyguy
Posted on Thursday, February 02, 2006 - 11:03 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Hey could one of you photoshop guys turn replace that picture of the dog being flogged with one of Bush being flogged? Just cut the dog and and put him in upside down. I would make a poster! Sadly I would feel much worse for the dog.........

Flame on! But try to keep it polite.
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Buellbozo
Posted on Thursday, February 02, 2006 - 11:27 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)


Yeah...He says were addicted to oil. DDUUHHH!!
Notice that his "solution" would benefit ADM.
Not a word about CAFE standards for Detroit.

Nomex on.
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Raraf
Posted on Thursday, February 02, 2006 - 11:31 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Wow the Chinese have NOTHING on these MoFos!
http://video.msn.com/v/us/v.htm?g=3186c54a-b1dc-4838-881e-caa54db1a6d6,9151b306- c442-4d84-b5a1-3d873ff32051,fc640f7c-fdfd-40da-a901-01f257fd36c1&t=&f=06/64&p
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Skyguy
Posted on Thursday, February 02, 2006 - 11:47 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

All politicians in a position to profit from war in any way shape or form should be required to divest themselves of all stocks and payments before. The current Administration and their "no bid" contracts are as corrupt as any third world nation.

Imagine if 20% of Americans decided to not file thier taxes this year unless there was a change..... Hell give me one single change for the positive. Perhaps makeing no bid goverment contracts against the law....... As it is these contracts that prove my point about a corrupt administration.
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Lowflyer
Posted on Thursday, February 02, 2006 - 12:42 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

It really sucks to be a liberal looking at everything from a completely cynical point of view doesn't it? I commend your courage to carry on in the face of such a dismal image of the country in which you live.

If they ever outlawed the libs' right to beeotch about every blessed thing, they'd surely off themselves.
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Skyguy
Posted on Thursday, February 02, 2006 - 12:52 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Lowflier, I am far from a liberal! lol. Why is it that everyone either gets classed as a liberal or a conservative when they take a exception to a political issue.

Example:
I could care less about domestic spying as I have nothing to hide.

I am pro death penalty! I just wish in cases of unequivical proof that the sentance would be immediate.

I think Cindy Sheehan should be shot.

Lol far from liberal. In fact I am not a Democrat, nor a Republican. I take issues solely on thier merit. My political decisions are made with absolutely no party in mind.
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Lowflyer
Posted on Thursday, February 02, 2006 - 03:38 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

"Why is it that everyone either gets classed as a liberal or a conservative when they take a exception to a political issue."

I was not labeling anyone, but the answer to this question is quite simple. You seem to have nothing positive to say about our government. That is a telling sign for most liberals nowadays. Liberalism is about sustaining a certain divisiveness among groups of people. They then feed on the gaps between these groups of people. It doesn't matter if it's Christian vs. atheist; vegetarians vs. meateaters; gay vs. straight; rich vs. poor; black vs. white; union vs. business; etc... As long as they can keep people believing in an 'us vs. them' scenario, they can garner support to stay in power. One of the clever things they do is create catch phrases like "big oil" and "big business." These things sound just plain menacing to the average "working family."

Conversely, conservatives thrive on relative unity. If there are no divisive gaps among groups of people, the free market can run wild. Conservatives do well in a free market. They can do too well and will quite readily take advantage. That is why God made liberals.

You seem to get some satisfaction out of calling the President names and pontificating about no-bid contracts and governmental corruption. From my perspective, that makes you look like a liberal. Whether or not you are a liberal today is for you to decide.

I will add that there is nothing wrong with being a liberal. I think most of us start life as liberals. It takes the school of hard knocks and a modicum of success to break average people of their liberal mindset. That is why most Hollywood actors remain libs. Many of them generally have no real concept of coming from and rising above hard labor to eventually create earnings from their earnings.
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Skyguy
Posted on Thursday, February 02, 2006 - 03:52 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

I am a conservative by definition then! I wish we could all be unified. And kick GW and his band of not so merry men straight out of the Whitehouse! And lowflier you are correct. I don't have much positive to say about our goverment right now. Although I am sure they are doing a decent job of protecting us from another 911. Lord knows enough people want to kick the USA's collective arse. so at least GW is doing something right.
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Spike
Posted on Thursday, February 02, 2006 - 04:04 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)


quote:

Not a word about CAFE standards for Detroit.




That's funny . . . I don't recall the automakers forcing us to drive gigantor SUVs and other low mileage behemoths. It seems painfully obvious from here that American consumers demand massive vehicles and are perfectly fine with poor mileage. Detroit simply gave the consumers what they wanted. What good would it do to punish automakers? Perhaps you'd like to punish fast-food joints for offering high-calorie foods as well?
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Blake
Posted on Thursday, February 02, 2006 - 05:09 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

"It might also be offensive to compare killing dogs to eat them with killing humans because they were considered impure."

<sigh> I'm not troubled by the killing. I'm troubled by the egregiously cruel beating of still living breathing yelping screaming suffering dogs.
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Buellbozo
Posted on Thursday, February 02, 2006 - 05:59 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

I might be wrong, but I believe trucks and SUVs aren't included in the present standards.I've certainly not said anything about "punishing" Detroit or anyone else.
My beef is with the myth that got started in the Reagan years that says Corporate America is always going to do what's best for America if left to it's own devices.
The greatest strategic threat this country faces is the finite supply of oil.The fact is that the American people,as a whole, are too short-sighted to see it and too self-centered to care.
I fully acknowledge that its my fuzzy-headed liberal way of thinking that tells me its just WRONG for this country to be so frivolous in its use of a dwindling resource that the rest of the world is becoming more adept in conserving. We're cutting our own neck.


Don't know who said it,but "as Detroit goes, so goes the country."
Ruh Row...

None of the above is an attempt to convince anybody about anything, just my opinion.
Usual disclaimer applies.
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Skyguy
Posted on Thursday, February 02, 2006 - 06:05 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

BuellBozo, Well said! I am going to have to remember that Detroit quote!
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Spike
Posted on Thursday, February 02, 2006 - 06:36 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)


quote:

I've certainly not said anything about "punishing" Detroit or anyone else.




Who do you think pays to meet CAFE?

I agree we need to use less oil, but mandating better fuel economy while demanding bigger and more powerful vehicles makes about as much sense as suing apple for hearing loss.

To use the analogy of cutting our own neck, changing CAFE merely gives us a smaller knife at someone else's expense.
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Buellbozo
Posted on Thursday, February 02, 2006 - 06:58 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

The consumer pays.
That's the whole idea.
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Buellbozo
Posted on Thursday, February 02, 2006 - 07:10 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

And it's not a punishment.

It's a consequence of a decision.
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Spike
Posted on Thursday, February 02, 2006 - 08:27 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)


quote:

The consumer pays.




I think we need to clarify. The CAFE I'm referring to is Corporate Average Fuel Economy. The Corporation is the one who pays to meet it. The only punishment to the consumer is the strain on the eyes from having to look at the Aveos while shopping for a new truck or SUV.

Do you really not get it?
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Buellbozo
Posted on Thursday, February 02, 2006 - 08:50 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Evidently not.

I'm evidently wrong in my assumption that corporations pass the costs of doing business on to the consumer.

Oh well.
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Blake
Posted on Friday, February 03, 2006 - 12:08 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Thou shalt not highjack the man's thread!

I get no respect I tell ya.

I heard on the news today that the law in Columbia found a bunch of puppies that had been implanted with a 1/2 kilo bag each of liquid heroin. So as of right now this minute I hereby vow to never ever score any Columbian heroin.

: ]
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Kdan
Posted on Friday, February 03, 2006 - 02:03 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

So as of right now this minute I hereby vow to never ever score any Columbian heroin.


Yer Mom must be so proud!
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Captpete
Posted on Friday, February 03, 2006 - 02:09 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Blake, you used to be so articulate. What happened? Tell ‘em one more time: You’re going to boycott all dog tenderizers!

Make dog-tenderizing illegal!

Then they’d have to start with one of these:

Little Dewey

I bet even a well-seasoned seal clubber couldn’t put one on the table.
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Buellbozo
Posted on Friday, February 03, 2006 - 08:42 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Sorry , Blake.

You do the Texas "stick to your guns" thing proud.
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Newfie_buell
Posted on Friday, February 03, 2006 - 09:15 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

The only table he would be on up this way would be to share a quick butchered steak dinner with me.

For the record I have never butchered a seal or would ever.
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