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Tcskeptic
Posted on Friday, December 30, 2005 - 05:27 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

OK since I have resolved to lose 35 lbs unsuccessfully for the last 3 years (Tho I did quit smoking this year, HooAhh!) This year I am taking a different approach.
In an earlier thread I learned that losing 7lbs is the rough equivalent of gaining 1HP, so this year instead of trying to motivate myself with a sleeker me I'm going to think of it in terms of a quicker Firebolt.
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M1combat
Posted on Friday, December 30, 2005 - 05:29 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Good call... I've gained 4.65HP over the last three months : ).
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Ryker77
Posted on Friday, December 30, 2005 - 05:36 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

I actually trying to loose HP then!!!

210lbs at 14% body fat. Need to gain about 15lbs of muscle by April so that I can cut down to 195lbs at less than 5% BF. You loose some muscle during the cutting phase. I've got a competion to do in June.

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M1combat
Posted on Friday, December 30, 2005 - 05:44 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

I'm 203 right now and I think about 17% (I could be way off, I think I was 24% at 235). I'm fairly lean at 185 (the lightest I ever remember being).

What type of competition?
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Ryker77
Posted on Friday, December 30, 2005 - 05:46 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

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Cataract2
Posted on Friday, December 30, 2005 - 06:11 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Ryker, what'd you do to get to that?

I myself am at 254lbs down from 300lbs since Sept. This last week though was not to good in that there was no loss or gain.
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Tramp
Posted on Friday, December 30, 2005 - 06:23 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

I'd kill to get back to 215, but I doubt that'll happen anytime soon.
ryker- with all respect, do you know how low 14% bodyfat actually is? I assume you do. Hope you didn't use calipers to arrive at that number.
what are you- 5'11?
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Blake
Posted on Friday, December 30, 2005 - 09:21 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Ryker is apparently upset and has turned his back on us.
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Kdan
Posted on Friday, December 30, 2005 - 09:30 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

By those calculations then, I gained 33 horsepower on November 10th, when my divorce was final.
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Ryker77
Posted on Friday, December 30, 2005 - 09:43 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Cat - I've been into lifting weights for a few years. But what has really helped me was taking A&P and micro biology classes. I know understand how to work the glycemic index, what to eat and at what time during the day to eat it.

No kids and lots of time hitting the gym. Even while I was working on the bike I'd stop every 2 hours to eat.

Tramp-- I used one of those hand held electronic things. Plus the lighting in the picture is not that great. And oil would have helped.
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Tramp
Posted on Friday, December 30, 2005 - 10:50 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Ryker- those handhelds, as I'm sure you know way better than i do, are supposed to be very accurate. Great lat spread, full lats. right on.
Blake, I swear I'm peeing myself after that 'turning his back on us' comment....
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Johnnylunchbox
Posted on Saturday, December 31, 2005 - 09:53 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

tcskeptic - congrats on the smoking thing. Keep up the good work. I quit 2 years ago and will never smoke again. However, I have gained about 25-30 (or should I say lost 3-4 HP?) I will attempt to get back to my 185 LB fighting weight this year.

I'm sure the Blast will benefit most when I lose the extra LB's
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Tcskeptic
Posted on Saturday, December 31, 2005 - 10:42 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

M1 -- 32 lbs in 3 months! That's incredible, what are you doing?

johnnylunchbox -- I'm done as well, the hardest time for me is when I'm having a beer or at a bar.
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Dtx
Posted on Saturday, December 31, 2005 - 06:14 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Ryker,
Cool another weight lifting enthusiast. I figured there were some here on the board, but the subject never came up. So you are going to try a competition? I say go for it.

The best I ever got to was when I was in college. I was 6'-3" 205 lbs at about 5-7% body fat. See pic below. It crossed my mind to compete, but never happened. Now, after graduating my priorities have changed, but I still lift. Between getting married and having a full time job, the lifting kinda took a back seat. Now I only lift about 4 days per week and I weigh about 185 lbs.

Good luck with your training!

pic1
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Bigdaddy
Posted on Saturday, December 31, 2005 - 06:29 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

I have admiration for those of you that control your diet like that -- I surely can't. I have found that the Masters (yep, the over 40 category) division for 242 lb'ers is perfect! I can eat whatever I like :-)

G2
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Rick_a
Posted on Saturday, December 31, 2005 - 11:00 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

In my best days I was 178lbs. I'm up to nearly 190 and I can't stand it. The wife loves to eat out...
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Tramp
Posted on Sunday, January 01, 2006 - 08:29 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

DTX: This "5-7% bodyfat" thing is really simlar to the HP thing with bikes. very few modes of bodyfat measurement take into account intramuscular fat ("Marbling" to the butcher), and organ fat.
Believe me, few walking corpses of Auschwitz had less than 5% bodyfat, and most aspiring bodybuilders are way off when they figure their own percentages. This is why I asked ryker what means he used to measure his percentage.
I'm sure that, being a borderline ectomorph (given that your setpoint weight is 185 @ 6'3)
your bodyfat percentage was lower than many in your class.
Takes nothing away form your results, esp. given the relatively light setpoint you have .
There is very little chance your bodyfat dipped below 10%, however.
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Cochise
Posted on Sunday, January 01, 2006 - 09:06 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Hey DTX, you've got two strings hanging off your shorts. Oh wait, it's just your legs. : p : D Just joshing with you, I probably wouldn't say it to your face because you'd see the pee running down my leg from fear.
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Blake
Posted on Sunday, January 01, 2006 - 09:14 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

The dudes with low body fat are usually the first to die in a wilderness survival scenario. You won't see many Navy Seals or other special forces types with low body fat. Fat, it's there for a reason.

Who saw the March of the Penguins documentary? Over four months without food in through the dead of Winter in Antarctica! Not many Emperor penguins competing in body building contests either. ;)
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Tramp
Posted on Sunday, January 01, 2006 - 09:21 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

and, along that htought, the first guys to drop outta BUDs are the guys who are simply prone to catching cold.
regardless of how big, how strong, what kind of endurance, etc. a candidate goes in with (SeAL BUDs is the only special operations force that a candidate for miltary service can be guaranteed a spot in at time of enlistment), it's the guys who catch colds who drop, first.
strange but very true fact.
lesson? if you ever intend to enter BUDs, fatten up. you'll have superior flotation, and far more fuel with which to produce replacement heat.
Everyone's a tough guy until they've been sokaed and shivering for a few days without sleep.
ooops.
(oh, yeah- if you've had less-than-stellar knee surgery, you'll likely drop, as well)
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Cochise
Posted on Sunday, January 01, 2006 - 09:23 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

I will probably get blasted for saying this by all those University of Encyclopedia Brittanica Majors out there, but after a Bodybuilding contest, where they come out and flex like madmen, they will use up all their energy by their flexing. I'm not saying that you could kick Arnold's arse, but, if you can get a bodybuilder to be pissed at you and want to kick your , you can run past a mirror and they will use up all their energy flexing, then you can knock them on their toosh.
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Tramp
Posted on Sunday, January 01, 2006 - 09:24 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

funny thing- overseas, you won't see many SeALs with cropped haircuts or shaves, either.
you will see some ponytails and wild beards
and thrashed nikes, however.
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Tramp
Posted on Sunday, January 01, 2006 - 09:37 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

I don't know about university of encyclopedia britannica majors, but i used to be a competitive bench-presser. I spent much of my time in serious gyms and helped train lotsa competitive amateur bodybuilders. Even at competition trim, after serious flexing, any of those cats could still bust out 40 pushups with ease. such isometric activity as flexing doesn't really expend too much glycogen. trust me, a bodybuilder who's just stepped off stage after flexing will still kick the same a*s that he could before flexing.
then again, i could be wrong...


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Cochise
Posted on Sunday, January 01, 2006 - 09:42 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

You sure do have an extensive knowledge base. I don't think there is a single subject that you aren't a pro on, and I think that's swell. I am gonna start checking with you any time I am going to make a statement, so as not to look like an ice hole.
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Tramp
Posted on Sunday, January 01, 2006 - 09:53 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Speaking of iceholes, I haven't been fishing in a few days...
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Dark_vapor
Posted on Sunday, January 01, 2006 - 09:53 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

My resolution is to get in shape again. Back in 1984 I had won teen age lightweight South East FL, NPC competition. I have been up and down in weight over the years and in and out of weight lifting and bicycling.

I was up to 217lbs 6 years ago with 15-17% body fat which isn't bad at 5'6". Now I am just a fat 195#. I wish I was consistent.
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Tramp
Posted on Sunday, January 01, 2006 - 10:05 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

holy scheisse, DV!
217 @ 5'6 is something. dang!
Tom Platz, Sergio Oliva, Dr. Franco Colombo, etc., are all shorter than you.
I met Tom Platz at the Venice gold's on hampton in '83, and the first thing that came to mind wasn't "dang, that guy's big", it was dang, "a munchkin!"
Even arnold is just barely 5'9, regardless of what half of the stats tell you.
most successful bodybuilders are under 5'9.
I was 216 for a period of time in '85, at (just barely) 5'10. I was in the 400 club, though, which was very cool.
tough part was trying to stay near that club while intentionally losing weight.
That background was a tremendous help in ski, then snowboard, racing. the strongest and heaviest guy down the course (assuming he makes all the gates) typically wins in Downhill and in open, lowtech super Gs. (remember the pine box derbies back in the cub scouts? that's why they weighed those little cars. gravity woulda tugged the heaviest ones down the fastest)
Unfortunately, much like snowboard racing itself, DH isn't as popular here in the land of the ambulance-chasing lawyer as it is in europe.
always wanted to meet sergio oliva, possibly the coolest and most talented bodybuilder of all time, I believe he was a chigaco cop through much of his competitive career. i could be wrong on that, though.
hey- i got to meet arnold, dr. frank, and Tom (the golden eagle) Platz, though

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Dark_vapor
Posted on Sunday, January 01, 2006 - 10:24 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

I met Tom Platz as well. He was a guest poser for our competition. The owner of my Gym was VP of NPC at the time. I worked out with Tony Little before he was all bubbly and selling fitness equipment. Tony used to be very quiet and was hard to talk to. I also worked out with serveral pro wrestlers and bodybuilders. Segio is an all time favorite of mine as well. I have met many greats Like Cory Everson, Mohammed Makaway (spelling my be incorrect), Tom Platz, Tony Little, Eddy Robbinson. Man I need to dig out the old pictures. I have met so many people I cant remember them all. It does help when the VP of NPC owns the gym and you get to go to all the competitions in Florida. I even got to oil up the female contenders at times. That was nice! Even got to work out with Mohammed when I was in Toronto once.
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Tramp
Posted on Sunday, January 01, 2006 - 10:43 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

this is a walk down memory lane. joe weider'd be proud, all right.
i started lifting in a (barely) converted dairy barn a mile from my home after my ishin ryu sensei mentioned that i seemed to be pretty strong and that i could probably improve my KOs and board-breaking by taking up benching.
the love of lifting took over and i all-but left ishin ryu in favour of lifting. constantly.
we devoured muscle and fitness mag, and compiled one he*luva library at our gym, and further, the owner's uncle owned a welding shop, so we were manufacturing our own equipment in no time.
remember cory's husband, jefff, "the uncut diamond" everson? his articles in M&F were hilarious and informative.
wish i could remember more of the names from back then.
they'd all come back to me if i saw their photos.
the mid-80s were truly the halcyon days of american bodybuilding....for me, anyway.
I never got into bodybuilding competion myself, but I loved bench competition and some standard powerlifting.
I was always a runner, then, so serious powerlifting or bodybuilding wouldn't have fit so well. one or the other, really.
I gotta scare up a scanner, now.
funny- the kid who started that gym in his family's old dairy barn (which later became a huge clubhouse bunkhouse/shop for us area riders), went out and relocated and expanded his little empire:
{www.straubsfitness.com}
kid was a state-champion trackstar at our high school, became a CPA, then got bored and expanded his gym. gotta love it.

(Message edited by tramp on January 01, 2006)
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Dtx
Posted on Sunday, January 01, 2006 - 11:00 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Hey DTX, you've got two strings hanging off your shorts. Oh wait, it's just your legs}


Cochise,
For the record, my calves were the same dimension as my arms in that picture, which by body building standards is considered symetrical.
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