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Mtnchld
Posted on Thursday, November 17, 2005 - 09:41 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

http://msnbc.msn.com/id/10053115/

I don't even know what to say.
I guess I'm glad there keepin' the inmates busy with something productive.

But $40,000 for a bike built by a felon??????


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Catmurray
Posted on Thursday, November 17, 2005 - 10:05 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

I am sure that bikes are being built by felons everyday that are regarded as upstanding citizens...The custom bike industry is stronger now than its ever been or ever will be IMO....I only hope that they sell all of those bikes and reduce the cost of housing the OUTLAWS that build them...would I buy one?....NO! I wouldn't pay 40,000 dollars for a bike built by anyone!
Maybe there will be a new Discovery Channel program....."AMERICAN CHOPPER-CARSON CITY" now I would watch that!!!LOL
cat


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Jeremyh
Posted on Friday, November 18, 2005 - 11:26 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

just because someone is a felon/inmate does not make them lazy or unable to perform good hard work. Hell i work next to an ex-con every day and i bet there isn't a person in this company that could out work this guy if they were on steroids and pcp.
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M1combat
Posted on Friday, November 18, 2005 - 12:28 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Yeah... ex-felons who have reformed generally make very good friends. Or at least that's been my experience : ).
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Bcordb3
Posted on Friday, November 18, 2005 - 12:49 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

What Jeremyh and M1 said
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Catmurray
Posted on Friday, November 18, 2005 - 03:40 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

AGREED!!
cat
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Boese
Posted on Friday, November 18, 2005 - 05:23 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

hell i think itīs cool, as long as they put the money to good usw, buy the prison a beamer to show movies or something ....
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Panic
Posted on Friday, November 18, 2005 - 06:49 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Right, jail really reforms people.
Pretty much like religion does.
Perhaps you've seen this phrase before: GIGO?
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Ricky
Posted on Friday, November 18, 2005 - 08:09 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Did you all forget that Paul Tetul(sp?) is an ex con?
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Rocketman
Posted on Friday, November 18, 2005 - 08:45 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

I've never been to jail, except to visit, though I do have a 'criminal' record.

I'm not ashamed of what I've been prosecuted for ever but I can put my hand on my heart, swear on both my children's lives, that on one and the first occasion I threatened a traffic warden with foul words, gestures and threats, I was guilty as hell. Sure I had very good reason for my outburst and a lot of stress too at that time but what followed over a course of several years was a worse crime than I ever committed.

On two further occasions I was subsequently picked out and victimized by traffic wardens. After the first 'incident', and on both the occasions there after, much to my astonishment I was arrested, locked up and charged. One of those traffic wardens put his fists up to me, which is the point when I got in my car and drove off. So, both these victimizations saw me in court where I had the distinct pleasure of watching these so called upholders of law, public duty employees, lie out of their back teeth. I told nothing but the truth and I was again on both occasions found guilty and fined heavily.

One of these traffic wardens is now so friendly towards me when I infrequently bump into him it's great. The other, an older horrible fella who lied so much on his opening statement I changed my plea from guilty to not guilty. My wife had said she was sick of the hassle I'd brought her so to end it I thought plead guilty and get it over with. His lies convinced me to defend myself with the real truth despite my wifes turmoil. That same horrible bastard of a traffic warden I overheard telling someone in the court corridor he was looking at buying a V-rod. He never did. That would have chilled me to the bone to imagine him as a fellow biker. When this traffic warden sees me he always looks the other way in embarrassment. That's because when I was found guilty I was asked if I had anything to say to the court. I did. I told them I was happy in the knowledge that I could go home with my head held high as I had told the truth in court unlike someone else who had not and was expected to do so by virtue of the fact he was the one supposed to be representing the law. He lied. I knew it. He knew it and so did everyone else in the court that day.

You just don't know sometimes who the hell is innocent or guilty these days and I guess that will always be the case, as has always been. Mercifully I don't believe it happens often in our more 'familiar less corrupt' nations. Great luck to anyone that can reform or face adversity with dignity especially if they're innocent - Ruben Carter.

Rocket - no criminal, just big mouthed and a champion of the truth when it needs to be told.
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Kdan
Posted on Saturday, November 19, 2005 - 12:16 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

I'm not a felon, but not for lack of trying!
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Jeremyh
Posted on Monday, November 21, 2005 - 10:56 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Panic, just about anyone can tell you what GIGO is, and for those that don't know: GARBAGE IN GARBAGE OUT. And as far as i can see, IMOFO. You have plenty of garbage in your thick head to make plenty of garbage come out of you cynic mouth. And go ahead bring on the flame job cause i won't care. I mean once a Cynic always a Cynic RIGHT so what do i care about what you might say anyway because no matter what i say you won't reform from Cynicism so bring it on.

I give this post about 20 minutes before it gets wiped anyway.


(oh yeah in case you don't understand IMOFO)
well you can figure that one out i'm sure.
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Sportsman
Posted on Tuesday, November 22, 2005 - 01:24 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Calm down buddy, cynisisym comes from being screwed till you can't see the good in anything. Been there, probably still there, but now I'm trying. Kicking a guy when he's down isn't helping anyone and shows lack of understanding and a closed mind. Maybe you woke up while in jail, maybe you found God along a wrong path. I don't pretend to know your pain or where you're at right now. I do know I'm as weak and wore out as anybody and fighting isn't helpful or constructive. Understandably the GOGO must have struck a nerve, don't let it catagorize who you are now. Rise past it, it's beneath or behind you now.

Rocket, good post.
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Rocketman
Posted on Tuesday, November 22, 2005 - 10:25 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Thank you Sport....................must dash. Lights out at 10

Rocket
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12r
Posted on Wednesday, November 23, 2005 - 10:01 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Rocketman: thanks for that confidence-inspiring tale of integrity, justice and moral fibre in our legal system.

IMHO The country's finished.
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Mtnchld
Posted on Wednesday, November 23, 2005 - 12:09 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Whoa- didn't mean to cause a ruckus.

I have many friends that are 'criminals' some have been caught and some haven't- if you go over the the 3%er's board you can meet some of them too
But seriously,
I thought it was interesting that they were charging so much for bikes made by people in jail.
What makes the bike so special?
The fact that it was made by people who are currently incarcerated or the fact that it actually has some innovative design.

I don't think that the fact that it was made by people in jail warrants a $40,000 price tag all on it's own.

IMHO
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Mtnchld
Posted on Wednesday, November 23, 2005 - 12:15 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

http://abclocal.go.com/wtvg/story?section=bizarre&id=3638509

They're built with fender supports made out of real jail bars.


That must be what makes them worth $40,000
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Mikej
Posted on Wednesday, November 23, 2005 - 12:25 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Could this be some super clever ruse to conceal a planned prison break? The jail bar fender supports tipped me off.

I can hear them now:

"Okay Louie, as soons as we ship out the 14th one the north wall of the prison will be ready to collapse, and by the 27th one the west wall will be ready to fall, and if we ship 100 of these out this whole place will go with a small gust of wind."

"Hey, Warden, can I move to the south side of the prison for awhile to be closer to the assembly of the bikes?"
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Djkaplan
Posted on Wednesday, November 23, 2005 - 02:19 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Half the welders that work in the manufacturing plant where I'm a consultant are convicted felons.

It's caused a few problems, but nothing related to qualifications or motivation to work.
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Xldevil
Posted on Thursday, November 24, 2005 - 06:12 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

What about warranty?

Regards,Ralph
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