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Grndskpr
Posted on Friday, November 11, 2005 - 12:10 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Anybody know how to build one, or can anyone point me in the right direction on how to build one
Has me interested as of late, and it would go on an HD not a Buell
Thasnk
R
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Firemanjim
Posted on Friday, November 11, 2005 - 12:46 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

They have a huge sidecar meet in SoCal every yrear.Get hold of Choptop as he has some sidecar connections if I remember.Sparky may know,also.
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Niceharleystuff
Posted on Friday, November 11, 2005 - 12:53 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

They are still available from Harley-Davidson. We do a few each year.
Click Here for details and info. This link is to one on a Police model but they are available for most HD models.
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Sparky
Posted on Friday, November 11, 2005 - 01:23 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

One of the top authorities, if not the top, is Doug Bingham of Side Strider. Although he's in the Los Angeles area, he can hook you up with mfgs all over the country for whatever bike you would like to turn into a rig. BTW, he attached a Velorex sidecar to a Cyclone that is running around the Glendale/LA area. Nice looking rig too.
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Grndskpr
Posted on Friday, November 11, 2005 - 01:31 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Buying a sidecar is just way to expensive, looking for more of a fun project
But as i understand it, it seems to be more complicated than i thought
Thanks again
R
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Henrik
Posted on Friday, November 11, 2005 - 01:49 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Don't know any specifics, but the loads, wheel tracking, the angle of the dangle on a sidecar I believe can get quite complicated.

There was a guy here in NY who got killed riding w/ a sidecar on his beemer. He'd built the hack himself. Bad stuff happened to connection points etc. at speed ....

Just a data point, but please be careful.

Henrik
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Rex
Posted on Friday, November 11, 2005 - 02:16 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

I think a really sleek, side car for a buell would look great. REX
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Natexlh1000
Posted on Friday, November 11, 2005 - 02:23 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Oh don't forget the Ural ones.
http://www.imz-ural.com/patrol/

Those look BRUTAL : )
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Sparky
Posted on Friday, November 11, 2005 - 03:38 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

"I think a really sleek, side car for a buell would look great."

Like this Equalean? I had one of the later, more developed canopy models on a FXRT for a number of years. Killer looks and a whole lot of fun in the twisties!
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Davegess
Posted on Friday, November 11, 2005 - 04:38 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

I want a Vespa with a chair.
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Djkaplan
Posted on Friday, November 11, 2005 - 04:49 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

A sidecar would just give me extra ways to really hurt myself. Nothing about a sidecar on the streets really appeals to me, but I'd love to be a monkey on a real racing rig. I'm probably too big to be good at it, but I know for a fact I can hang on like a mofo.
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Shotgun
Posted on Friday, November 11, 2005 - 04:59 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Here's a link to some used rigs for sale:http://www.sidecar.com/megabbs/forum-view.asp?forumid=9
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Natexlh1000
Posted on Friday, November 11, 2005 - 05:01 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

There's an old timer around here that has a Suzuki Burgermaster scooter with a sidecar.
I saw him a couple of times.

(so I know it didn't kill him right away)
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Firemanjim
Posted on Friday, November 11, 2005 - 05:56 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Dave,I have seen a few of those scooter rigs,really neat looking.
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Rocketman
Posted on Friday, November 11, 2005 - 09:13 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Roger, it's not that difficult to build a sidecar and there's nothing complicated about setting one up either. I can give you info on measurements etc.

That said, if you're attempting to do it on a low budget my advice would be to find \ buy a cheap chassis preferably with the tie bars and mounting clamps etc all present then the rest is upto you. Build your own body. Buy a body. Fit a bath tub or a coffin. Whatever you desire. You will need a welder and a grinder and the skills to use them efficiently. Especially the welder

Let me know how far you wish to proceed.

By the way, and I've said it before somewhere on BadWeB, the Ural with the sidecar wheel drive WILL go anywhere and will shame any Jeep, Land Rover, four wheel drive whatever into oblivion. I've seen one drive along and up and down a vertical wall.

Once mastered the art of sidecar driving, it's a hell of a lot of fun, even at slow speeds. Riding on two wheels with the chair in the air with its occupier terrified is great fun. Especially if it's your mum. Don't ask, please LOL

Rocket
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Buellgrrrl
Posted on Friday, November 11, 2005 - 11:19 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

If you're looking for one for a Sportster, the Motorvation Spyder works real well, I have one on my BMW R80ST. FFI: www.motorvation.com. They also have larger models that fit the big twins. The sidecar's weight has to match the bikes, with the sidecar weighing at least 1/3 as much as the bike weights.

If someone wants to hack a Buell, the propreitor of Dauntless Motors (www.dauntlessmotors.com) says he'll make the subframe if the customer will bring the bike to him in Oregon. I may take him up on that offer yet...
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Seth
Posted on Saturday, November 12, 2005 - 11:58 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Sidecar:
2 ounces Brandy (cognac)
1 ounce Cointreau
1/2 ounce lemon juice

Shake with ice. Strain into cocktail glass.
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Kim
Posted on Saturday, November 12, 2005 - 12:31 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

On the Ural site listed above click on downloads, then movies. Look at the Gear Up movie. Shows a 50 cal being shot from the sidecar.

Kim
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Ezblast
Posted on Saturday, November 12, 2005 - 01:34 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

LOL - Now that you showed that - if I get a Uli - she wants a Ural! So she can take the dog and stuff!
GT - JBOTDS! EZ
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Mr_grumpy
Posted on Saturday, November 12, 2005 - 05:57 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Ya beat me to it Seth, I also like a " Slow comfortable screw against the wall" but that's another story! remind me to tell you.............

Roger you could always build a trike with a dual rear seat.

If you do build a sidecar don't think I'm going to run the gap as your monkey!
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Grndskpr
Posted on Saturday, November 12, 2005 - 06:15 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

If you do build a sidecar don't think I'm going to run the gap as your monkey!

Were not going to the gap, were going to Cape Bretton, an dif you have to sit for 1000 miles in a home made side car, so be it, its going to be an adventure, did i mention the extra gas tank mounted in the side car?
Get over it, you will be fine, i think
R
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Kim
Posted on Saturday, November 12, 2005 - 06:32 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Ez, Our dogs think our Patrol belongs to them. Dogs look great in the car with their doggles on and their ears blowing in the wind.

Kim
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Newfie_buell
Posted on Saturday, November 12, 2005 - 08:39 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

I can just see Innes in that now!!!!!
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Bluzm2
Posted on Saturday, November 12, 2005 - 10:31 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Kim,
Glad to hear you stil have the Ural!
I still want one...
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Midknyte
Posted on Sunday, November 13, 2005 - 03:30 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

marginally related
http://blogs.motorbiker.org/blogs.nsf/dx/11092005110013MWEDR8.htm

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Panic
Posted on Sunday, November 13, 2005 - 09:45 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Re: "I've seen one drive along and up and down a vertical wall"

Elvis driving?
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Jackbequick
Posted on Sunday, November 13, 2005 - 09:47 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Bluzm2 - There is a 1981 Dnieper with a factory sidecar for sale here in Maine. Call Pete at area code (two zero seven) eight eight two-4181 to talk about it.

It is a 650cc air cooled opposed twin. Ukrainian made, very rugged (even in comparison to a Ural).

It will cruise at 50-55 MPH, it is not a high speed cruiser.

Some more details: New tires, needs some engine TLC. Lot's of new parts, 2 tonneau covers, new sidecar upholstery. Maroon with silver pinstriping. $4000 OBO - in Wiscasset, ME

Jack
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Cyclonemaniac
Posted on Sunday, November 13, 2005 - 11:29 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

As a note, the Belt fed gun being fired from the side car is a Russian PKM in 7.62 X 54R. (.30 cal) They set up and fire what appears to be the Russian AGS-30 30MM grenade launcher in the grass. Might be an AGS-17 though.


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Slaughter
Posted on Sunday, November 13, 2005 - 02:22 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

YOU LAUGH (HA!)

Vespa DID make a side-hack!

Hyper-collectible now (gonna google a pic if I can find one)
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Slaughter
Posted on Sunday, November 13, 2005 - 02:30 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Found a few:
Vespa1
Vespa2
Vespa3
Vespa4
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Rocketman
Posted on Sunday, November 13, 2005 - 02:56 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

They also made 'trikes' with the two wheels at the front and usually some sort of luggage or utility above them.

Rocket
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Mr_grumpy
Posted on Sunday, November 13, 2005 - 03:28 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

You can still get these.

http://www.vtl.piaggio.com/ape.htm
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Rocketman
Posted on Sunday, November 13, 2005 - 07:15 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Regular or decaffe - no problem.

coffee bar


I met a fella recently who has a real fancy coffee machine in the lift up back of one of those. He earns a fortune out of it!

Rocket
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Natexlh1000
Posted on Sunday, November 13, 2005 - 09:25 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Holy crap! that thing must take off like a rocket with a 50cc engine.
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Cyclonemaniac
Posted on Sunday, November 13, 2005 - 11:06 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Does it come with the wind up key, or is that an option? On a serious note though, I'm sure for the narrow streets of some European cities, it's just the ticket.


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Bcordb3
Posted on Monday, November 14, 2005 - 10:09 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

In my mispent youth I did bumming around Europe thing a couple of times. I saw many Vespas with side hacks. Could have bought one for about $100.00, well used of course. I sure wanted that thing. But in those days a person could live a month on that kind of a budget, Arthure Frommer's $5.00 a day had nothing on a lot of the young folks back then. GOD I FEEL OLD!
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