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Jwz7
Posted on Thursday, November 10, 2005 - 02:35 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

what's the most millage anyone has gotten out of their stock clutch?i have 15k on mine and it still feels fine but,i was wondering if i should replace soon or just wait till it starts to slip?
whats everyone's thoughts on this and would it be worth the money to upgrade to a better clutch/springkit? and what clutch kits do you prefer?
thanks for the input.
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Glitch
Posted on Thursday, November 10, 2005 - 05:28 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

I have close to 40K on mine.
No problems, 03 XB9S.
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Natexlh1000
Posted on Thursday, November 10, 2005 - 05:41 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Mine got "odd" at about 55K and finaly crapped out at 58K.
The cause was the sprung plate in the middle lost its brass rivets and they ate the adjacent friction plates.
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Crusty
Posted on Thursday, November 10, 2005 - 05:44 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Mine's fine at 55K.
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Djkaplan
Posted on Thursday, November 10, 2005 - 07:59 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

I'm amazed at the abuse the clutch on my 2000 M2 can take. I only have 30,000 on it, but it has had a really (really) hard life. When it comes time to replace it, I'm sticking with factory stock parts.
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S2pengy
Posted on Thursday, November 10, 2005 - 08:23 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Over 45,000 on mine but I have removed the spring plate assembly, which is what the XBs have from the factory....
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Grndskpr
Posted on Thursday, November 10, 2005 - 09:07 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

I have removed the spring plate assembly

Please explain more
thanks
R
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Samc
Posted on Thursday, November 10, 2005 - 09:58 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Sporty and older Big Twin clutches have a "spring" plate in the middle of the pack (do a search in the Knowledge Vault for pics, etc). The spring plate is two steel plates held loosely together with brass rivets, and with flat leaf springs pushing them apart. It's purpose appears to be to broaden and soften clutch engagement. Later Big Twins and Sporties do not have the spring plate, they have an extra friction disk instead. You can but "extra plate" clutch packs from Barnett, etc; from Jireh, the cost of the whole Kevlar pack is about the cost of a spring plate from the dealer, which says something.

Anyway, a common failure is for the brass rivets to shear, floating around inside the clutch basket. A main symptom is uneven dis-engagement (sometimes it works right, sometimes it drags). If left, the basket gets scarred by the tramp metal, and the adjoining plates get trashed, so the cost of repair goes up.

You can remove the spring plate as a preventative measure and put in two steel plates and a friction disk, or for less money (unless you have a supply of plates lying around), put in a whole new aftermarket clutch pack, about $100 if you shop.
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Fullpower
Posted on Thursday, November 10, 2005 - 02:11 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

the clutch in my dodge pickup is original and has 247,000 miles on it.
The 9 plate barnett clutch in my sportster has at least 30,000 miles. it is a drop in set, which eliminates that big fat spring plate formerly used in buell and sportster clutches.
pretty tough clutch set-up on the new bikes, i have 16,000 miles on my XB, and i do not expect to wear it out any time soon.
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Bigblock
Posted on Thursday, November 10, 2005 - 03:09 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

28,000 hard miles on my '00 M2, still good (knock on wood...)
Had great results with kevlar plates in my old iron stroker sporty, poor results with Barnett kevlar clutches in evo sportys,and know of others with poor results from kevlar in tuber- style Buells, as well. This would be from about 3 or more years ago, it is possible that this is not an issue any more. I would reccomend the stock setup , esp. if motor is fairly stock, in my admitedly limited experience. YMMV.
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Bigblock
Posted on Thursday, November 10, 2005 - 03:17 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Let me add, that the evo style bikes that were prone to problems with kevlar, that I know of, were all sublect to EXTREME abuse and destroying stock clutches very rapidly.

Picture 360 lbs riding around on the rear tire most of the time. It ain't pretty.
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Djkaplan
Posted on Thursday, November 10, 2005 - 04:34 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

I've heard the same complaint from drag racers about Barnett clutch plates. With such a bad reputation with those that have used them, I wonder why they're so successful?
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Jackbequick
Posted on Thursday, November 10, 2005 - 08:47 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Where's Tramp?

He was saying earlier this year that he had about 85,000 miles on the clutch in his bike (S3?). It was that time when he found he had a bad bearing on the adjuster screw.

Jack
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Cowboy
Posted on Thursday, November 10, 2005 - 09:40 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

40000 on 2001 x1 no problems
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1313
Posted on Sunday, November 13, 2005 - 11:18 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

If memory serves me correctly I was in the mid 60's on my S2 when the original clutch went. Actually it was the spring plate that tore up the clutch basket, so maybe the rest of the plates were actually acceptable. Since I had to replace parts and I was determined to get rid of the spring plate, all new parts were used (including the extra metal and friction plates). Now with 105 K on it I am beginning to keep in mind that it should soon be ready for another clutch.

1313
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M2nc
Posted on Sunday, November 13, 2005 - 01:03 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

41,000 miles on the M2 and according to its service history before I owned it, it is the original clutch.
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