| Author | Message | ||
     Dago |
Are you serious, Fullpower? I can't imagine not having the right to defend myself or my property no matter what State I'm in. | ||
| Daves |
Oh no, not more fried Okra! That is some nasty stuff! | ||
| 99buellx1 |
Officer thinks to himself: "I just hit you with my truck and you are laying on the ground in pain, probably with broken bones, I'm gonna have to press my knee into your back and make sure you are broken.........or I'll have to go back and get the truck again." | ||
| Cyclonemaniac |
Mmmmmmmmmmmmmm! Fried Okra! Don't know what you're missing Dave! I'll eat your share, how's that! he he he  | ||
| Nedwreck |
"Tyre tracks all across your back, I can see you had your fun" ~Jimi Hendrix - Crosstown Traffic Bob | ||
| Fullpower |
Dago, et al: the castle doctrine, first enumerated in english common law provides that a man (used as generic term for adult human being) has a natural ina lienable right to defend his home and family from all intrusion, this right is recognized in law, but many of the more liberal states, and in particular those late arrivals to the republic such as Alaska and Hawaii specify that one must make every effort at appeasement to any threat of bodily injury, and flatly reject the notion of defense of property. Taken to the liberal extreme of my own state of Alaska ( constitution written in 1959) I am required by law to retreat from an attack in a public place, and am statutorily restricted in defense of personal property. this "duty to retreat" ends at the front door to my home. of course if you have a 2 year old kid strapped in the passenger seat of the pickup, all duty to retreat from threat conveniently disappears. also if the expressed threat is dire enough that one dare NOT turn ones back, ie. a twitching crack freak, or known violent felon obviously preparing to use deadly force on oneself or present company, in which case retreat would very certainly result in loss of innocent life, one can use deadly force to counter such threat. unfortunately the preponderance of evidence in most states is on the defensive shooter to "prove" imminent and grave bodily harm. In the states of Texas, and also i Believe Florida the castle doctrine extends to ones person, even into a public place, so that if a deranged mutant makes a forceful request for the contents of your wallet, an appropriate response can be made up to termination of the threatening party. In essence if you are a Texas resident, in your home state, you are explicitly allowed to shoot a mugger, car jacker, purse snatcher, and probably a rapist, but i am not actually sure about that last. | ||
| Jackbequick |
I've never lived in Texas but I've seen it and did not care for it. When I lived in Alamogordo, NM part of Texas blew by almost every day. ;>  Jack | ||
| Tank_bueller |
I'm with Daves on the Okra thing....eew. I usually cook southwest style though....Mmmm...spicy. Oh, and I have guns(pl). (Message edited by tank_bueller on November 08, 2005) | ||
| Chasespeed |
Fullpower, you forgot, you can also shoot your wife if you catch her in bed with another man... Anyway, lived in TX from 98-03and it took a few years, but it grew on me. Lived in the Corpus Christi area, but traveled all over... I am seriosuly considering moving back there in 08 when my active duty time is up...though, where, and what I am gonna do..is beyond me. chase | ||
| Blake |
Ceejay, Never heard of Peach Creek, TX. I live in Kilgore, home of the world famous Rangerettes.  And trust me when I say this, I've been to some of the most awful places in the world; there ain't anywhere in Texas that comes close. There ain't anywhere in America that comes close. There ain't anywhere in the Western hemisphere that comes close. | ||
| Blake |
Dave, Come on man, darn near ANYTHING battered and deep-fried is palatable. You want nasty? We'll order you some boiled okra. The description "chunky snot with seeds" comes to mind. GAG! | ||
| Blake |
MMI, May I suggest you consider focusing on more positive things in life? To be frank on the issue... negativity sucks. There's intentional humor in that highly negative statement of course.  | ||
| Ceejay |
I guess I came off the wrong way as in peach creek area is one of the ugliest worst places I've been---  , | ||
| Ceejay |
I know there are worse places in the world as many military can attest but in the USA Gary gets my vote, check that place out on a sat night around 3-4. ouch. | ||
| Aesquire |
Boiled Okra!? that's a good description. Having lived in the midwest, ( Nebraska, Kansas, South Dakota ) I can tell you, Easterners just don't get it. "the Tappet Brothers" on NPR ranted for years against Montana's reasonable & prudent speed laws. Living near Boston, they KNEW that it was madness to ever go faster than 60-65 mph. Arguably true in the overcrowded, over regulated peoples republic of Mass. Anyone who has driven across the great plains knows that clear sight lines & laser straight roads designed for 150 mph plus speeds ( no kidding, the super highways built in the mid sixties some places were spec'ed for 200+!!!! ) combined with modern tire & brake technology make 90+ cruising speeds not only rational, but wise. ( to avoid sleep at the wheel, a slightly interesting speed is better than a too slow drone ) | ||
| Blake |
Ceejay, Please see my suggestion to MMI above. Good grief. If you really want to post derogatory commentary on various places in the world, please find another venue to do so. Okay? Buck up dude. Are you with me?  There are still some good riding days ahead before Winter sets in, even in Ohio. | ||
| Seth |
...Officer thinks to himself: "I just hit you with my truck and you are laying on the ground in pain, probably with broken bones, I'm gonna have to press my knee into your back and make sure you are broken.........or I'll have to go back and get the truck again."... I was never taught the "ask the fleeing felon nicely" method of restraining and cuffing an individual; I suspect neither was the officer in Texas  | ||
| Koz5150 |
After spending 3 years living in LA (lower Alabama) I have come to love Ocra. In fact it is the only reason I will go to the Cracker Barrel. | ||
| Dago |
Thanks for the very thorough answer fullpower. | ||
| Glitch |
In Kennesaw Georgia, you are required by law to own a gun and ammo. I'll bet you can guess what happened to the crime rate. Fried okrey, grits, I've been raised on southern food, so it seem kinda funny someone wouldn't like it. But I do feel the need to say, boiled okrey, stewed okrey, or okrey cooked any other way than dipped and fried is nasty. | ||
| Dago |
Don't forget about okra in gumbo. YUM! I'm calling my mom about that now. | ||
| Clevelandxb9r |
Has anybody else seen the 60 Minutes (or Nightline??) news piece on Texas troopers? What I learned from it: Don't drive in Texas with out-of-state plates. They had hidden cameras in two cars with the leading car having out-of-state plates. It would only take a few minutes of driving on the highway and the leading car would get pulled over. The cameras in the leading car (speedometer visible, cruse control on) and the following car camera would prove that the Texas troopers would lie every time claiming: weaving, speeding, variable speed, changing lanes without signaling etc. Every time they easily proved the troopers lied. They also interviewed a bunch of people. The most memorable to me was a lady about 60 years old was driving through Texas in her Caddy. They pulled it over (of course Florida plates) and found a hidden compartment underneath. There was no drugs in it, but they charged her with cocaine possession of a few pounds (because that is how much COULD have fit in the compartment!?!?). She eventually got out of jail after she proved she bought the car used, and that she was a model citizen. But she also never got her car back! (Screw you, were Texas SuperTroopers, we are always right!) This is the greatest country in the world, and no place even here is perfect. But I do spend my vacation $ here in this country. But never in Texas! | ||
| Glitch |
Are you saying they tested every Texas State Trooper? I'd be willing to bet there's bad apples in every group of apples. To judge a whole state on a 60 Minutes (or Nightline??) news piece is kinda lame don't ya think? Media today will tell you what they want you to believe anyway. I feel for the old lady, but I'b also be you could find a similarly bad case in each state. | ||
| Dago |
"only take a few minutes of driving on the highway and the leading car would get pulled over"...??? Do you have any idea how big Texas is, and how many police there would have to be in order to get pulled over within a few minutes due to the fact you have out of state plates? Give me a break. My Buell has the tag in a technically illegal spot and I think the inspection stickers are hideous, so it's not even on my bike. And aren't all cops supposed to hate sport bikes? Well, I've never had one ounce of trouble. Perhaps 60 minutes knew of a problem area and were exposing it? And the tale about granny getting a felony charge due to the fact she had a secret compartment is totally ridiculous as well. Even IF it did happen, what did granny do to provoke the cop to search her vehicle. She must have been one troublesome granny! LMAO Thanks, I needed that laugh. | ||
| Road_thing |
What's the matter, Cleve? Afraid they'll find your stash? rt "Never ask a man where's he's from. If he's from Texas, he'll tell you, and if he's not, well, why embarrass him?"  | ||
| Ceejay |
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| Clevelandxb9r |
By "only a few minutes" I mean like 15 to 30 minutes. Which is a few in comparison to how many minutes it would take to cross the state. But the fact that the first three troopers they encountered pulled them over is starting to have statistical significance. The report may have been about one county or one area; not necessarily the whole state. I don't remember. BTW, this show was about 4-5 years ago?? BTW2, drug free here (except alcohol), but so was the lady! | ||
| Glitch |
The report may have been about one county or one area; not necessarily the whole state. What I learned from it: Don't drive in Texas with out-of-state plates.  | ||
| Dago |
I just think it's funny how you can write off an entire State as a result of folklore and a 60 Minutes expose'. | ||
| Superbee24 |
Texas is bad, gives you the hibbee jibbees, bad mojo down here, they don't like foreigners, it is a wasteland, and their Super Troopers are out to get ya. Now if we could only get all those imported Californians to believe that. The beauty of this wonderful country is that millions of veterans ( like myself ) have given their time (and some their lives) so that you and I can live where we want when we want and can all agree to disagree without ending in prison. If you love Texas come on down, if ya don't, Well, don't come on down. But I would put up the Texas Dept. Of Public Safety Troopers against any other State Police force and I believe that are just as good as any and better than most. |
