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Jon
Posted on Saturday, September 17, 2005 - 09:31 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Picked up an IPAQ 2210 about 2 years ago and just recently bought a CF wifi card and have been surfing the web with it.

I have a very powerful notebook with wireless and some desktops too, but I'm telling you I think I will be spending more time with the 2210. I am amazed at what these things can do wth the right plug ins. Any body addicted to these things like I think I am going to be?

Anybody use them for GPS?

What do you have and what do you use it most for?
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Tombo
Posted on Saturday, September 17, 2005 - 10:11 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Started with a Sharp Zaurus, then Palm Pilot, Palm Pilot III, Sharp Mobilon, and currently using a Blackberry. I usually take the Blackberry with me on rides since I can also use it as a phone.
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Jon
Posted on Saturday, September 17, 2005 - 11:03 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Can you surf the internet with the Mobilon?
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Jackbequick
Posted on Sunday, September 18, 2005 - 07:41 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

"..Anybody use them for GPS?..."

I using an iPAQ 3765 for a GPS on my M2. Uses a mouse style GPS receiver (in the tail housing) with the GPS in a Buell tank mount map case. Running Tom Tom 5 for nav software.

The receiver and PDA are powered off the M2 battery. I wired in a DC-DC adapter in a socket and the wiring and receiver stay on the bike, the PDA can come and go as needed.

Jack
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Odie
Posted on Sunday, September 18, 2005 - 09:06 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

I've been researching these for a little while. It looks like the Dell X50v 624mhz is going to be my choice. I need something I can surf the net with at work (but semi-discreetly) and a GPS I can switch from truck to bike to boat. The Dell seems to fit the bill pretty well. Any input from anyone with pros/cons on my choice would also be appreciated.
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Reepicheep
Posted on Sunday, September 18, 2005 - 01:41 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

I've run a palm w/ gps on my Cyclone and my car.

It works, but the PDA's tend to be pretty fragile, and the necessary dangling wires and mounting is a headache. Cabling is highly snarlish as well, as you have one wire going to the GPS receiver, and another going to a power outlet somewhere, it is a PITA.

If I were going to do it again, I would just drop the coin for an integrated unit.

The laptop on a car seat works pretty well though, if you already have the laptop it makes a fantastically powerful navigation system dirt cheap.
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Ingemar
Posted on Sunday, September 18, 2005 - 01:56 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

I own a 2210. What plugins are you talking about?

I've been trying to find a powercommander tool for it. Does it exist?

I mostly use it for the VDSTS software.
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Jon
Posted on Sunday, September 18, 2005 - 04:26 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

ingemar,

i just got a ambicion cf module that provides wifi capability. i am using it now to surf and post. it's a "G", but backwards compatible with "B".

you can get the diagnostic tool for the pda. Dave S can get for you. i don't know about a power commander.
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Tombo
Posted on Monday, September 19, 2005 - 08:51 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Jon, the Mobilon uses Windows CE and runs a version of Explorer. Unfortunately, there was less support for CE once Pocket PC came out and I no longer use it. I currently use the Blackberry for surfing.
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Jon
Posted on Wednesday, September 21, 2005 - 09:55 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

I'm in Cattlemens restaurant awaiting my table and surfing Badweb...I love this thing!

BWAAHHHAAAHAAAA!!!
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Rex
Posted on Thursday, September 22, 2005 - 03:36 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

I have a dell handheld.....small screen. will trade for buells....rex
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Lowflyer
Posted on Thursday, September 22, 2005 - 09:44 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

I have a Garmin iQue 3600. The GPS function is first-rate.
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Odie
Posted on Thursday, September 22, 2005 - 09:53 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

I should be receiving my Dell with GPS in a few days. I can't wait......

What are you that are surfing using for an ISP? Any particular provider better than others as it pertains to PDA's?
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Daves
Posted on Thursday, September 22, 2005 - 09:56 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

This may be a dumb question for all of you but how does it access the net?
How much are the units?
How much is the internet service?

If I had one of them I could work even more hours!
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Odie
Posted on Thursday, September 22, 2005 - 10:03 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Daves, the Dell I'm buying has built in Wi-Fi/Bluetooth technology. Setting up with an ISP and you are surfing on the cell phone towers just like a cell phone. Same system if you will. I have a friend at work that has a small laptop and he went with T-Mobile for an ISP. His didn't come with a wireless card installed so they installed one and as long as he is receiving a signal from a cell tower he's surfing. Dial-up speed at first but I think they just bumped it up a little more. I can't wait to get mine. I'm primarily getting it for surfing and the GPS as we're planning on doing some Gulf of Mexico cruising in the boat and going over to the Bahamas from West Palm Beach next year. Plus my wife is a crappy navigator on the road!
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Odie
Posted on Thursday, September 22, 2005 - 10:06 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Oh- I think my friend is paying $39 a month for unlimited access.

I paid around $625 for Dell's best PDA (X50v 624mhz) with 2 additional software selections and their GPS system thrown in. PC World has rated it the best of the windows based PDA's.
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Rek
Posted on Thursday, September 22, 2005 - 10:09 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

I'd really like to upgrade to a PDA for doing my inspections but am not familiar enough w/ the different type to make a decision just yet. Perhaps this winter I'll have more time to explore them.

Rob
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Daves
Posted on Thursday, September 22, 2005 - 10:36 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

40.00 per month for unlimited use!
Too bad my deer stand is out of my cell service area!
I need therapy

Dial up speed is the deal killer for me. Life is too short for dial up.
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Odie
Posted on Thursday, September 22, 2005 - 10:42 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Dial-up does suck after cable internet! I'm searching around as we speak for an ISP. I'll post what I find out as far as speeds/cost/etc. I have Alltel for all of our phones but they don't provide anything for PDA's so now I'll have another cell bill........
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Reepicheep
Posted on Thursday, September 22, 2005 - 12:21 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

He is not getting any decent general coverage with WiFi or Bluetooth, he must have cell phone data capabilities (i.e. GPRS, nothing to do with GPS). Like the Blackberry, Treo, and TMobile Sidekick use.

You can buy laptop and PDA cards to use these signals. $40 per month is about right for the lower (dial up) speed connections, and this is probably on top of what you already pay for a cell phone.

I have used (briefly) a Treo (palm OS) and lived with a TMobile SideKick and a blackberry. The Treo was a palm device ruined (and I love the Palm OS).

The Sidekick had the absolute best hardware layout and network integration, exceptionally well done, but was ruined by TMobile. Instead of bringing in great extra applications (i.e. password management tools) they would just keep bringing out more snoop doggy ring tones. Their data service also had some serious issues for corporate use, probably less then 10 days down a year, but bad enough that I never quite trusted it for critical work. Danger (designers of the device and data architecture) created the killer app, and TMobile did their best to ruin it.

The Blackberry is minimally acceptable, but in all the right places. It has seamless outlook synchronization, which is all it really means to be. It is a cell phone with a window into your outlook data. It works day in and day out, and has a minimal but reasonalby rich set of third party applications. It clearly had more attention paid to security issues then the Sidekick as well.

I believe the newest blackberries can become a bluetooth modem for your laptop as well.
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Jon
Posted on Thursday, September 22, 2005 - 08:26 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Well I have SBC dsl service and while I don't pretend to understand all that, if you happen to be in a place where their is an unsecured wireless network, you can get on the internet through their network basically.

My IPAQ 2210 will just pick up an network. For example, at work today, my unit picked up the wireless network that a school down the street was generating. I could not get on that network, because it was a secured network with encryption. If I was an employee, etc, and had the code, I could have gotten on and then surfed, checked e-mail, etc.

These handhelds are the bomb for bike travel. I'm taking it with me the next time I ride (this Saturday).
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