| Author | Message | ||
     Gomo |
I use this in my MSF classes. Just thought I would pass it along. Perhaps you may know someone that could use a little info. http://jeff.dean.home.att.net/swisher.htm | ||
| Natexlh1000 |
That dude might need a new visor. | ||
| Tramp |
best reason i know of for wearing a fullface is that guy on rotten.com (PLEASE don't anyone post the shot...I'll feel responsible) whose face is split in two, and he's alert, staring at the camera... (......shuddder....) | ||
| Wyckedflesh |
 Yeah I know, you only see one major mark on the chinbar...but notice something missing??? No one ever did find big enough pieces of it to keep... | ||
| Indy_bueller |
I know about the picture you speak of. It actually wasn't a motorcycle accident, it was a botched suicide. I know one of the nurses that tended to the guy. | ||
| Wyckedflesh |
or was that the guy screwing around with a firecracker in his mouth...something about not realising the fuse had ignited off his cig when he took a drag off it while wireing up some others... | ||
| Natexlh1000 |
I was always wondering about that awful picture. It never looked like a bike crash to me. No embedded gravel. Man, now I'm trashing myself out just thinking about that. | ||
| Tramp |
i remember them distinctly saying he hit a roadsign at highspeed. maybe two different cases? this was aguy, sitting upright on a gurney, not much face to speak of, big blue eyes staring at the camera....caption said "nothing comes between me nad my harley" | ||
| Jon |
I wear an Arai Signet full face becaue it offers better protection. It's that simple. | ||
| Spike |
About the picture on rotten . . . I remember it being captioned with "this is why we don't ride motorcycles" or something to that affect. I'm not willing to go look again just to double check. I've seen is referenced on other sites where people in the medical field suggested that it was a result of "explosive in the mouth." Now, I'm not clear on how or why you have explosives in your mouth, but what I am clear about is that it didn't look like anything a motorcycle accident could have caused. There was no visible road rash, just a lot of missing parts. It didn't seem like that could be caused by impact. For those of you who haven't seen this picture consider yourself lucky. I'm sure many of you are curious, but believe me it's not worth it. I haven't seen the picture in years and it's still vividly burned into my mind. While you're at it, avoid researching anything titled goatse. | ||
| Tramp |
i just perused rotten.com, it's still 'listed'( "nothing gets between me and my harley"  , but the link goes nowhere, errorville, expiredburgh.... | ||
| Imeazy |
I just tried the link on rotten as well. Definately a dead link. A better example yet is the "All The King's Horses Motorcycle accident" link. Very graphically shows what happens witout a helmet. Warning not for the weak hearted. http://poetry.rotten.com/all-kings-horses/ | ||
| Elf |
Ooohhhh! A Splitting Headache in the one Imeasy posted! That other photo that you all are referring to - is that the one where he has no lower jaw? If it is, I don't know if I'd call it "explosive caused". No powder burns or any kind of charring if I remember correctly. I don't believe it was a MC accident either, unless they had already cleaned the wounds when the photo was taken. It looked like he ate a steering wheel or a dashboard in an auto accident that removed his jaw, and most of his face from the nose down. Oh, and +1 in agreement with Spike on the "goatse" That's TRULY nasty! | ||
| Budo |
I remember that picture. I remember him being a solder. My thought was that some of the macho guys used to crimp blasting caps onto a fuse using their teeth. Sometimes it went bang! My Grand-dad told me that one when we were blasting stumps. | ||
| Charlieboy6649 |
I'm going with the shotgun suicide theory... I saw video of a guy who did the same with the same facial trauma result... Back to the thread...I'm never wearing anything but full face. I've seen local "results" of choosing not to... | ||
| Tramp |
guys- not a soldier, not an charge in the oral cavity. big, fat, hairy dude with a ponytail, face split in half because his face was bisected by a roadsign post, hence the absence of 'roadrash' or powder 'tatooing'... believe me, that's what it was. hey, gomo, when do you teach another class? i gotta ping you offline- my better would like to take a first-time class, don't know if you instruct those. you've gotta be a great instructor, stopping out in the rain like that.... | ||
| Arbalest |
I did a face first crash to the pavement at about 35mph. Had a pretty severe headache and needed a new helmet. That helmet was a bargain. I ALWAYS wear a full face helmet. | ||
| Tramp |
i restrict my fullface helmet donning to motorcycling | ||
| Johnb |
Flip-Up helmets - pro/con opinion? I like Schuberths and some others by Shoei, KBC, HJC, Nolan, AGV, BMW, Roof.. don't think Arai makes one. Correct me, even with DOT/Snell certs (if you can find one) flip-ups are not approved for the track (correct?), but safe enough for street/highway use? Does the common inherent design component of a hinged chinbar mechanism adversely compromise crash security that we shouldn't trust them? In any case, openface/shorty helmets are probably unwise, fullface being the safest.   | ||
| Reepicheep |
When I had glasses, a flip front was a must have. You could put it on and off without messing with your glasses. Now that I had lasik, I don't know that I will get another one. I got a good deal on my Schuberth Concept, and it is a well made helmet, but it is not perfect. I think my next one will be a traditional good quality reasonably priced full face helmet. I had a Nolan Trend that was a decent helmet for the price as well... (Message edited by reepicheep on September 16, 2005) | ||
| Cyclonecharlie |
You guys are too morbid. I wear a fullface so the highway patrol doesn't see me grinning when they pass by.........Charlie | ||
| Natexlh1000 |
Funny you mention it but the real reason I went to full face was to keep the bugs and weather out. Thankfully, I havent needed to keep the pavemnt out with one yet. | ||
| Philip |
a guy i know was riding his stretched out fat tired chopper around a curve a little too hot and ran out of lean. wobbled into the gravel and high sided and ended up straddling a telephone pole. broke his jaw in several places, several teeth, both eye sockets and had a y shaped crack in his skull. lots of screws and metal and he was back together. the kicker is he and a bunch of his knuckle dragging buds swear he would have been killed if he had been wearing a full coverage helmet! later...philip | ||
| Tramp |
natural selection is not, by definition, 'purdy'.... | ||
| Aesquire |
"Flip up" helmets are safe enough. Most have a steel or alloy reinforcement in the chin bar. I wear one. DOT approved HJC Symax. ( Snell has not yet tested a flip up lid per their web site ) | ||
| Jlnance |
Johnb - I have a flip up. Like reep says, if you wear glasses its wonderful. Snell has not approved any flip up helmets, so you can't use them on the track. If I'm reading aesquires post right, Snell has not even tested them, so the lack of endorcement is more of a "we don't know" than "we think its bad." | ||
| Xring |
OK, what are the percentages on the helmet drawings? Likelihood of impact, or damage, or ...? Thanks, Bill | ||
| Gomo |
what are the percentages on the helmet drawings Points of impact from reported crashed motorcycles | ||
| Buelltroll |
There's the whole keep your brain in your head thing,And this..  |
