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Buelltroll
Posted on Tuesday, September 06, 2005 - 06:29 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

What would make a kick starter freeze up after washing a 4 wheeler?
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Buelliedan
Posted on Tuesday, September 06, 2005 - 07:59 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

bearing siezed with rust?

(Message edited by buelliedan on September 06, 2005)
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Jackbequick
Posted on Tuesday, September 06, 2005 - 08:43 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

A kick starter usually involves a sector gear and a pawl, a spring or two, a dog clutch, etc., to let it engage the motor and then freewheel once the ATV has started.

If one of those starter parts broke or jammed that might allow some small amount of movement on the input shaft although the starter is not working.

If the starter shaft is absolutely immoveable in either direction, then it is probably a seized bearing in the kickstart shaft.

Do you have a service manual to trouble shoot the problem? Also, you might want to note some of the details and ask a dealer.

Jack
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Reepicheep
Posted on Tuesday, September 06, 2005 - 08:47 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Petcock left on, little spec of grit in the needle seat, and cylinders filled with gasoline?
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Bandm
Posted on Tuesday, September 06, 2005 - 08:58 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Water, oil, or gas in the cylinder, pull the plug and try. Does it push start?
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Djkaplan
Posted on Tuesday, September 06, 2005 - 10:05 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

"Petcock left on, little spec of grit in the needle seat, and cylinders filled with gasoline?"

That'd be the first thing I'd check. Pull the sparkplug wire well out of the way (without a sparkplug in it!) before you kick it over. If that's what the problem is, a geyser of gasoline (or water?) will spew from the open sparkplug hole.
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Newfie_buell
Posted on Tuesday, September 06, 2005 - 10:54 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

I'd say the cylinder is filled with either gas (Open Petcock) or water from the washing.

Years ago a friend washed his Corvette and went to start the car and no go. It was finally determined that one of the cylinders filled with water and another happend to fire. The crankshaft ended up bending due to the inability to compress water.

Pull the plug, move the plug wire away (I got another story about that one) and clear out the cylinder. It should run fine after that.
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Buelltroll
Posted on Tuesday, September 06, 2005 - 07:06 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

GOD I LOVE BADWEB!
There was at least a half of a gallon of water in there.
Probably saved me 200$ in shop fees.
I thank you and my son thanks you.




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Reepicheep
Posted on Tuesday, September 06, 2005 - 08:03 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

That smile says it all! A treat to help!

: )
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Mellow_yellow
Posted on Tuesday, September 06, 2005 - 08:04 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

God love the guys on the Badweb!!Look at the smile on that kids face.Put one on mine,too.
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Newfie_buell
Posted on Tuesday, September 06, 2005 - 10:26 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Excellent!!!!
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Koz5150
Posted on Tuesday, September 06, 2005 - 10:29 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

And the lesson learned here is never wash a dirt vehicle! ha ha

Glad it all worked out.
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Buelliedan
Posted on Tuesday, September 06, 2005 - 11:25 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

I would have never thought it could have been that!! You guys are geniuses!!!!!
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Typeone
Posted on Wednesday, September 07, 2005 - 12:04 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Buelltroll those pics rule... screw the playground! hit the throttle ; ) way to teach 'em.
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Newfie_buell
Posted on Wednesday, September 07, 2005 - 08:08 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Oh you can wash them!!!!

You just find a river thats not too deep and ride through it, then you make it dirty again, then you have to clean it.
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Bandm
Posted on Wednesday, September 07, 2005 - 09:10 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Now would be a good time to change the engine oil, just in case any water got in there. Pressure washers will blow water through grease seals, don't directly spray them, and grease all fittings after washing to push water back out.
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Tramp
Posted on Wednesday, September 07, 2005 - 09:18 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

this is why i dig this site
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Road_thing
Posted on Wednesday, September 07, 2005 - 10:55 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Troll: Great pix! I love to see kids getting started early!



I posted this same picture a while back, that's a much skinnier me with my son, taken in '82 or '83. He still rides, he's 27 now.



You've got a lot of great years ahead of you!

rt
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Newfie_buell
Posted on Wednesday, September 07, 2005 - 11:42 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Well seeing there are kid shots now!!!


(Message edited by Newfie_buell on September 07, 2005)
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Newfie_buell
Posted on Wednesday, September 07, 2005 - 11:44 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

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(Message edited by Newfie_Buell on September 07, 2005)
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Jeremyh
Posted on Wednesday, September 07, 2005 - 02:37 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

oh well if your going to teach kids do it the right way.......


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Oldog
Posted on Thursday, September 08, 2005 - 12:44 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Great stuff..
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