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Tramp
| | Posted on Tuesday, August 30, 2005 - 10:35 pm: | 
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...you have good humour about it all, and that's half the battle. i'm not sure i asked, but, how old is your battery? |
Koz5150
| | Posted on Wednesday, August 31, 2005 - 12:13 am: |
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The battery is the one part I replaced. It was 4 years old. |
Koz5150
| | Posted on Wednesday, August 31, 2005 - 12:14 am: |
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I have never used a multimeter before. I bought one this morning (no instruction book) so through a little experimenting and some basic knowledge I figured out which setting meant what. If anything, it is another tool I added to the collection. |
Tramp
| | Posted on Wednesday, August 31, 2005 - 02:57 am: |
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the continuity tester will be a great help in your diagnoses. I keep a multimeter under the seat of every bike I ever own. |
Jackbequick
| | Posted on Wednesday, August 31, 2005 - 02:04 pm: |
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Everyone needs a multimeter.
For continuity testing, set it to R x 1, touch the probes together, and set the needle to "0". Then when you put it on a circuit, it will read zero or higher depending on what is in the circuit. A fuse will typically read "0", a light bulb a few ohms, etc.
Jack |
Reepicheep
| | Posted on Wednesday, August 31, 2005 - 03:38 pm: |
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Everyone needs to stop their current resistance to the potential purchase of a multimeter, and conduct themselves better. This will lead you to better continuity of riding time, and should help you get amped up for unbiased riding experiences. |
Tramp
| | Posted on Wednesday, August 31, 2005 - 03:46 pm: |
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www.genius.reep
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Road_thing
| | Posted on Wednesday, August 31, 2005 - 06:33 pm: |
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Ohmygawd... |
Reepicheep
| | Posted on Wednesday, August 31, 2005 - 07:24 pm: |
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Two of the three I expected to draw out with that comment...
Bomber? You were the third... you OK?!?!?
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Newfie_buell
| | Posted on Wednesday, August 31, 2005 - 08:04 pm: |
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Were you a geek growing UP?????
Good Line Reep........
"amped up" BWHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA |
Tramp
| | Posted on Wednesday, August 31, 2005 - 09:14 pm: |
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Koz- WHY, exactly, DID you replace the battery? |
Bomber
| | Posted on Friday, September 02, 2005 - 09:40 am: |
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Reep -- I'm OK now, thanks, bud -- just had to clear the airway after reading your post! phew --
I need a beer!
actually, I returned from our round lake michigan putt with my better half -- had a great time -- writing sumpin up for the board, but now I gotta figure out where to put it -- sheesh, leave for a week, and things get all shuffled around on ya!
ps, I tried Tramp's trick of stashing a multimetter under the seat, but my old simpson won't fit in there . . . . any suggestions?
lastly, some folks replace their batteries in a prophylactic manner, wishing to avoid future unpleasantness -- me, I sue em til I have to bump start the scoot (tough on the MaDeuece) |
Tramp
| | Posted on Friday, September 02, 2005 - 09:44 am: |
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"ps, I tried Tramp's trick of stashing a multimetter under the seat, but my old simpson won't fit in there . . . . any suggestions?"
yep- one of those cheapa*s 'tru-value' hdwe. store mini-mulitimeters and a strip of duct tape.
according top what model buell you have, you can tape it to the inside of a body panel, or the side of the battery, etc. a big rubber band is great when keeping the multi on the battery. |
Road_thing
| | Posted on Friday, September 02, 2005 - 10:26 am: |
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Waht knid of lwayer sues battereis? |
Koz5150
| | Posted on Friday, September 02, 2005 - 11:11 am: |
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My original thought was the battery was just old and wore out.
Update:
I haven't ridden/started my bike since Wednesday. The battery has not lost the slightest bit of power. I am starting to think I may have a part time bleeder.
I had a dream last night where my entire engine grenaded, thank goodness it was only a dream! |
Impulse_101
| | Posted on Friday, September 02, 2005 - 11:20 am: |
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Bomber,
hit radio shack. They make a basic little multimeter that is a little bigger than a credit card. I toss them into my remote kits for broadcast.
JT |
Tramp
| | Posted on Friday, September 02, 2005 - 11:30 am: |
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"My original thought was the battery was just old and wore out."
ahhhhhhhh...OK- so no testing was done of the battery, you had (it sounds like) the same symptom, and the battery was the first in the line of "parts replacements" you wanted to do.
In the two days since running it, the bleed should be nearly unnoticeable. I doubt it's "part-time". Your original battery was likely fine (but changing it after 4 years is NO waste of money). have you done the bleed test I described? that's your best starting point, and it's silly simple. |
Reepicheep
| | Posted on Friday, September 02, 2005 - 02:02 pm: |
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Harbor Freight had a tiny one that fit right in there that I bought for $8. Hard to beat, and no excuse not to carry one.
Sure beats sticking your tongue on those stator pins at night on the side of the highway.... If you do so, and wake up 5 minutes later flat on your back, the stator was good!
(just kidding, 60 volts would not knock you out, it would just hurt like hell). |
Henrik
| | Posted on Friday, September 02, 2005 - 02:32 pm: |
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I've been carrying the little Radioshack meter with me for about 12 years now. Started in the tool roll of the old Shovelhead, then the Evo and then the Buells. I keep it in small sheet of foam, wrapped in a zip-lock bag. No trouble keeping it alive.
Henrik |
Tramp
| | Posted on Friday, September 02, 2005 - 03:26 pm: |
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"If you do so, and wake up 5 minutes later flat on your back, the stator was good! "
again with the stator...? you guys ever check anything else? |
Firemanjim
| | Posted on Friday, September 02, 2005 - 03:44 pm: |
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Hey,Koz,I had the starter out of the S-2 the other day and can sneak the bolts out without taking clutch off.Just enough room for the Allen bit and if you take the top one off first the other will loosen and stay in place.Sure saved some time. |
Reepicheep
| | Posted on Friday, September 02, 2005 - 03:50 pm: |
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The stator is arguably the easiest part of the charging system to check reliably, at least on a tuber. Cut two cable ties under the cam cover, disconnect a plug, and make 4 measurements with a DVM (3 with bike off and one with bike running). At the end of it, you know for a *FACT* if the stator and associated wiring is working or not.
The battery is arguably easier to access, but it is harder to test reliably (is it down on volts because it is failing, or because the stator is toast?). Plus, I have done way too much "crescent wrench welding" pulling battery terminals. Even when pulling the negative first, I still seem to find some way to arc something.
You shoulda seen me weld the rocker box once... *forehead slap* OH. *That's* why they told me to pull the battery to replace a rocker box gasket. *NOW* I understand 
(Message edited by reepicheep on September 02, 2005) |
Bomber
| | Posted on Friday, September 02, 2005 - 04:36 pm: |
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thang -- a lawyer what can't spell, of course
I wsa KIDDING about the simpson not fitting under the seat, fellers . . .. . but thanks for the tips, anyways ;-}
actaully, I quit carrying a dvm on board about a decade ago -- the few times it helped ne diagnose a problem I couldn't skull out without the meter, it was something I couldn't replace on the side of the road with the parts/tools on hand
everyone's milage will vary, clearly, cept tramp, whose scoot never breaks ;-} |
Tramp
| | Posted on Friday, September 02, 2005 - 05:02 pm: |
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fireman jim- WHY are you getting Koz going on pulling his starter? look what you guys did to the poor guy by bellowing about stators, already? let him diagnose it correctly, starting with the simple draw test i mentioned, and then let him check for LT voltage TO the starter, and then the relay, should the starter NOT be receiving the correct LT voltage, and so, on, before you mess his melon up further with tales of starter R&R. |
Reepicheep
| | Posted on Friday, September 02, 2005 - 05:14 pm: |
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So Koz, let me tell you how to pull out the 5th gear drive assembly! I know a trick that will.....
Just kidding Tramp... |
Tramp
| | Posted on Friday, September 02, 2005 - 05:18 pm: |
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Blake
| | Posted on Saturday, September 03, 2005 - 12:04 pm: |
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Will be moving this thread to the Knowledge Vault's "Electrical..." topic. Please in the future post all such tech related threads to the applicable KV topic.
Thanks for all your help in getting the ol' BadWeB organized.
BadWeB Custodians |
Cochise
| | Posted on Saturday, September 03, 2005 - 12:15 pm: |
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the continuity tester will be a great help in your diagnoses. I keep a multimeter under the seat of every bike I ever own.
Right beside his ball peen hammer |
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