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Rainman64
Posted on Tuesday, July 31, 2018 - 07:38 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

I made a mistake and let my Buell (09 Ulysses) sit too long without riding it and now it wonít start. I replace the plugs (made sure I had spark from both plugs) and drained all the old fuel out. I added new fuel, but it still wonít start. I pulled all the intake covers off so I could get to the intake to spray starting fluid. When I spray in the starting fluid, it will run for a moment and then die. It will only run as long as I spray in the starting fluid. I disconnected the fuel line from the throttle body inlet to check for fuel pressure. Switching the ignition off and on causes a flow of fuel from the line, so there is fuel getting to the throttle body inlet. I need some ideas where to go from here. Thank you!
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Akbuell
Posted on Thursday, August 02, 2018 - 10:10 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

You have spark to the cylinders, confirmed by running on starting fluid.


You have fuel to the fuel rail, but do you have adequate pressure? If so, then it would appear that the injectors are clogged. Likely, given todays ethanol infused fuel, and depending on how long the bike was parked.

Try cleaning or replacing the injectors, if the fuel pressure is good, the battery is fully charged.


Hope this helps, Dave

(Message edited by Akbuell on August 02, 2018)
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Gabby_duck
Posted on Friday, August 03, 2018 - 06:09 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Motion pro makes a good injector cleaning device. Make sure you order the HD injector pigtail. Oh also make sure you are getting injector signal at the injector wire connectors. Use a noid light probably can get free loaner from O'rileys or buy from horrible freight. The signal will flash if you plug the gm noid that fits good in your ford connector (ford part)the noid will be a little dim but as long that it is flashing your good.
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Rainman64
Posted on Sunday, August 05, 2018 - 11:28 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Hi,

Thanks for the input. Iíve gone into the service manual trying to find out if the injectors can be removed without taking half the bike apart, with no luck. If you have removed them, please advise what Iím in for. The manual states itís labor-intensive to replace the plugs, but I have that down to less than 20 minutes with only removing the left side air scoop.
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Gabby_duck
Posted on Sunday, August 05, 2018 - 04:04 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

I have done the throttle body removal twice without dropping the engine. Will need a 1/2 inch combo wrench with the close end swivel I use horrible freight. A small swivel head 1/4 inch ratchet horrible freight sells a decent one. Remove both left and right air scoops remove also remove the coil. Remove both throttle cables (be careful with them remove the metal tab first don't force) remove IAC,TPS, coil connectors remove fuel connector from throttle body by squeezing the quick release tabs pushing towards the nipple then pulling off. Now remove the fuel injector connectors. Put tape on them number 1cyl and 2cyl. Remove 4 each bolts and remove throttle body from top.
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Gabby_duck
Posted on Sunday, August 05, 2018 - 04:06 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Order two sets of seals just in case you screw up first set.
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Gabby_duck
Posted on Sunday, August 05, 2018 - 04:10 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Note you have two different color injectors red front white rear. Be careful removing injector housing gasket use sensor safe rtv when reinstalling the gasket.
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Gabby_duck
Posted on Sunday, August 05, 2018 - 04:13 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

If you live near Melbourne Florida let me know
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Gabby_duck
Posted on Sunday, August 05, 2018 - 04:14 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

P.s change fuse with new before proceeding 10 amp fuse
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Rainman64
Posted on Sunday, August 05, 2018 - 04:56 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Thank you all for your input. Makes me wish you were all neighbors. Lived in Orlando 91-97, but now back in sweet home Alabama.
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Gabby_duck
Posted on Monday, August 06, 2018 - 03:16 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

If you do or don't rotate the engine you will need to follow the service manual also you will need mechanical ability.This video will help. 09 buell dosn't have a front or rear flange markings both are interchangeable. https://youtu.be/rEVE9n_3BzA
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Gabby_duck
Posted on Monday, August 06, 2018 - 07:53 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

The reason I mentioned the fuel pump fuse is I have had them not blow at the filament where it can be visually seen. Also label your throttle cables location.Take good pics with phone. One is throttle open the other is throttle close.read service manual on there removal.you will need If I remember correctly small 1/4 wrench to loosen the nuts to remove those metal tabs at that location. One other thing there is a bolt that connects the throttle body to the coil bracket.
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Gabby_duck
Posted on Monday, August 06, 2018 - 07:56 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Below this thread is one written by morrant. Read because this will prevent alot of buell electrical gremlins
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