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Jbird611
Posted on Tuesday, April 07, 2015 - 08:46 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Beginning on last October I went out to fire up the bike to head to work and it started but died right away. I kept trying to start it and it would start every time I hit the button but just dies right away. Now that the 6' of snow is gone I pulled the plugs out and replaced. Didn't help. Any thoughts? Thanks in advance.
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Reepicheep
Posted on Tuesday, April 07, 2015 - 09:31 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

So is the motor spinning but not firing? Or does everything go kinda dim and all clicky? I'd drain and put in fresh gas too.
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Jbird611
Posted on Wednesday, April 08, 2015 - 12:17 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Its starts right up everytime I hit the starter but dies right away. I understand about the bad gas but it first started in October when I had been riding frequently all summer.
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Reepicheep
Posted on Wednesday, April 08, 2015 - 01:37 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Hmmm. TPS Reset? Crank Position Sensor test? Does the 2004 have a sidestand safety switch? Head temp sensor?
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Jbird611
Posted on Wednesday, April 08, 2015 - 06:19 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Maybe This will help. If I give it gas it will stay running. Very poorly and it pops and farts and flames shoot up out of the air intake. I think I need to just bring it into the dealer. I'm not savy enough to dick around with it.
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Reepicheep
Posted on Wednesday, April 08, 2015 - 07:56 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

TPS and cam position sensor would pop to the top of my list then....
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Jbird611
Posted on Wednesday, April 08, 2015 - 08:28 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

I appreciate your help.
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Akbuell
Posted on Thursday, April 09, 2015 - 11:53 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Just for fun, try removing/reinstalling the fuses, relays, ect. Adding some dielectric grease wouldn't hurt.

And try swapping the relays one for the other.

Sometimes corrosion builds builds up on the blades, and relays can get into a pre-fail mode where they kinda work, but not well.

Can't hurt, and only takes a few minutes.

Hope this helps, Dave
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Gabby_duck
Posted on Saturday, April 11, 2015 - 08:22 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

1)Have battery checked out by local bike shop or battery s plus.Clean and make sure the battery terminals are good and tight.A loose connection will cause ecm to sensor issues
2)a bad o2 sensor can also cause hicups and backfire thru the intake.
3)all of the above has happen too me
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Gabby_duck
Posted on Saturday, April 11, 2015 - 12:12 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Inspect battery positive and negative cables where they connect to battery.One of the wires had cold worked or back in fourth from seat pressure. also make sure the connections are clean and tight.
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Jbird611
Posted on Monday, April 13, 2015 - 07:32 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Thank you, I will try all these things and report back
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Knight7682
Posted on Sunday, May 24, 2015 - 10:18 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Hi Guys,

I just recently purchased a 2004 Buell Lightning XB12s with 2042 miles on it and I am having these similar issues. The previous owner purchased the bike new and it pretty much sat in his garage. He said he had it serviced every year at a local HD dealer. When I purchased it the bike started right up and I rode it home. I purchased plates and insurance a couple days after i got it home and when I went to start it I got the same issue as described above. I replaced the plugs and the battery but still no luck. My father-in-law came over and tried to help but no luck. He did notice that the bike had a race exhaust and also a race ECM. I called the previous owner to ask if he had modified the bike or if he ever experienced this issue before and he said "NO".

I'm really sorry about making this sound like a novel but wanted to give you guys as much detail as possible.
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Gabby_duck
Posted on Monday, May 25, 2015 - 08:04 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Go back and check battery connections. Better yet remove the battery and clean the grounds put a little dielectric grease at those connections. Make sure those reinstalled connections are good.?? You do have fuel and are those spark plug wires are on good.
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Reepicheep
Posted on Tuesday, May 26, 2015 - 07:52 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Well, gotta start checking for possible problems one at a time until you find what's wrong.

Check bike thoroughly (including inside airbox) for mice and other vermin, make sure fuel is all fresh fuel, put in fresh oil and transmission fluid (not your problem, but you should do it anyway) and go over battery connections and make sure battery is fully charged. Those are the "free" things to do (because you have to do them anyway).

Then you can try replacing plugs, as "almost free". Some work (either fussing doing it through the top, or rotating the engine down), but not a huge job. Plugs will easily last for 20k miles in "normal use", but a bike that was started now and then but never really run very hard will almost be guaranteed to have fouled plugs.

Sputtering and backfiring when hot can be a cam position sensor, but that would be odd for a low mile bike.
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Reepicheep
Posted on Tuesday, May 26, 2015 - 07:56 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Oh, and I would also check charging system on a bike that sat a lot. My thinking is that it would be easy to kill a battery like that, then somebody just decides to jump start the bike off of a running car, which can (and probably will) kill the bikes voltage regulator.

DAMHIK. I did this myself to my M2. I now understand why that was stupid, but I'll leave that for another thread if anyone cares. Short answer is that it is OK to jump a bike from a car, provided the car is never running when connected to the bike.
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Knight7682
Posted on Sunday, June 07, 2015 - 08:53 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Ok well I'm back sorry for the delay. I was out of the country came back and did everything replaced all fluids, new set of plugs, battery and checked all the ground terminals. It still won't start. It turns over and wants to get going but it just dies. Any other suggestions?
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Gabby_duck
Posted on Sunday, June 07, 2015 - 09:53 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Did you have your TPS reset?
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Knight7682
Posted on Monday, June 08, 2015 - 04:58 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

I have not reset the TPS do you think it would need to be reset if it was running when i bought it and 2-3 days later it doesn't start?

How do i reset the TPS? I don't have the manual so any info or instructions would be appreciated.
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Gabby_duck
Posted on Tuesday, June 09, 2015 - 08:39 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Agree with you on the TPS reset at this time.I would look into the can position sensor
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Gabby_duck
Posted on Wednesday, June 10, 2015 - 06:24 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Cam position sensor/ not can
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Gabby_duck
Posted on Wednesday, June 10, 2015 - 07:23 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

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Gabby_duck
Posted on Thursday, June 11, 2015 - 11:45 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

https://youtu.be/i33__Qkvhn4
TPS Reset on youtube
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