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Thorninmyside
Posted on Thursday, August 15, 2013 - 08:16 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

does anyone have a copy of ecm spy i can borrow . i have a 2009 xb 12r that check engine light is coming on intermitinly .usually when engine is cold . when this happens it runs roughly and is down on power .dealer wants 85.00 and 2 weeks wait just to pull codes.it would be very helpful to know where to start looking
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Froggy
Posted on Thursday, August 15, 2013 - 10:34 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

You can use TunerPro RT to pull your codes, it is free. You can also jump two of the pins on the diagnostic port to have the error code flash on the dashboard. Here are the directions


quote:

"Easy. First thing to do is locate your diagnostic test plug under the
seat. It's an empty four pin connector. If you're looking at it with
the pins facing you and the locking tab at the 12:00 position, the
pins are numbered as follows:

Pin 1 -- upper right corner
Pin 2 -- lower right corner
Pin 3 -- lower left corner
Pin 4 -- upper left corner

With the ignition switch off, install a jumper wire across pins 1 and
2 in the diagnostic plug.

Turn the ignition switch to the ON position and wait approximately 8
seconds for the check engine light to start flashing.

All trouble codes are sent out as a series of flashes. To retrieve the
first digit of the code, simply observe the number of times the lamp
flashes.

The transmission of a trouble code is always preceded by six rapid
flashes (about 3 per second). This transmission is followed by a 2
second pause in which the lamp is off. The lamp will then flash one or
more times to indicate the first digit of the trouble code. The length
of time that the lamp will be either on or off when indicating a
trouble code is about 1 second in duration.

Following the transmission of the first digit in the trouble code,
there will be another two second pause before the second digit is
transmitted.

After the second digit is transmitted, there will be another 2 second
pause. After the pause comes another intermission (six rapid flashes)
after which the next stored code is transmitted in the same manner.
Once all the trouble codes have been displayed, the sequence will
repeat.

If all you observe is the rapid flashing, then no trouble codes have
been stored.

When done, turn the ignition key off and remove the jumper wire.

There is no way to clear trouble codes using this method. The only way
to clear codes without hooking the bike up to a computer is to take
the bike through 50 start and run cycles (start engine, run for at
least 30 seconds, shut it off).




Here are the codes
http://www.badweatherbikers.com/cgibin/discus/show .cgi?tpc=32777&post=2328856#POST2328856
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Thorninmyside
Posted on Friday, August 16, 2013 - 04:54 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

thank you very much i will try the jumper wire thing .hopefully it will point me in the right direction.
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Pagprivat
Posted on Monday, January 06, 2014 - 05:03 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

I recently have had the same thing happening, an occasional CEL coming on, usually when cold.

I have used ECM spy to connect with the stock ECM, finding historical codes there, no prob. Now I'm running on an EBR ECM, and haven't dared to use ECM spy, reading around here that it might brick the EBR.

So, I've changed to Tunerpro RT. Downloaded xdf and adx, hooked it up, seem to be working fine. Dashboard is responsive, all test commands are working, and I've also reset the TPS with it. But I cannot find the historical codes anywhere? The CEL is as said only occasional, thus hard to see it in Tunerpro when it is "live"...

Googled and searched in here, but can't find anything of where to find the history.

Any insight is most appreciated : )

Edit 1:
I've also checked the EBR ECM with the "short the pins method", and the only thing I get is series of 11 rapid flashes, with a second or two intervals. Took me about 10 counts I think in order to be sure it was 11, it's fast... : )

Edit 2:
Just came across another post in here saying that 10-11 rapid flashes means no stored codes, so I guess that's my case. Probably means a lengthy troubleshooting road for an intermittent fault coming up then, wiggling for el gremlins, grounds etc.etc. : (

Still would like to know where to find the codes in Tunerpro though.

(Message edited by Pagprivat on January 06, 2014)
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