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Kdkerr2
Posted on Monday, July 22, 2013 - 11:00 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

My M2's gas cap lever just spins around and does nothing. Won't release the cap! I could get loose all my flat head screws but the nut for the vent tube gizmo still retains the flange. Any suggestions?
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Buell_bert
Posted on Tuesday, July 23, 2013 - 12:07 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

There is a recent posting on someone who is making a fix. That will not get it open now though. I had it happen a couple times also. When you turn it push down not up and turn slowly about 1/4 turn and maybe a tad more. Then pull up. I had to fiddle with it a bit. If your at a gas station and low on fuel and far from home I've been known to utter a few colorful metaphors.
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Harleyelf
Posted on Tuesday, July 23, 2013 - 01:32 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Remove the gizmo's tube and it will unscrew. You will drop the vent into the tank and have to take it off and drain it and shake it upside down to retrieve it.

Eventually, spinning the cap latch left while alternately pressing down and lifting up will either unlock the cap or drop the latch's retaining nut into the tank.

Bert's way works more often than gizmo unscrewing without dropping anything into the tank. The key is to alternate pushing down to relieve the friction with lifting up so it will engage the piece it should turn.
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Kdkerr2
Posted on Thursday, July 25, 2013 - 12:27 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Got it taken care of. I took it to my Buell dealer in Louisville KY. The vent gizmo came off and then the flange came off after all the screws were removed. This was a real pain in the butt! I will fix this problem with some redneck engineering! Plan "A" is to fabricate a new flange plate with the 8 bolt holes and then have my welder weld in the new center a new conventional gas cap bung so I can replace the piece sh!t gas cap Buell invented [Way over engineered!] with a standard vented Harley cap. I'm a retired tool and die maker with a lathe and mill in my garage so it will be done! Thanks for all your input!
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Buell_bert
Posted on Thursday, July 25, 2013 - 12:46 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Scroll down to (Old School Buell), go there and scroll down to (Gas Cap Fix) there is some info you may be interested in.
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Bluzm2
Posted on Monday, July 29, 2013 - 11:59 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

What he said...
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Kdkerr2
Posted on Friday, August 02, 2013 - 01:52 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Got the Cyclone back on line. I just got back from a short test ride. It now sports a Drag Specialties vented Harley gas cap which is what Buell should have put on it to begin with. I'll try to get the pix uploaded tonight so if any of you need to replicate this feat y'all won't be bumbling around in the dark.
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Kdkerr2
Posted on Saturday, August 03, 2013 - 12:46 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Here's new flange I fabbed out of 11 gauge hot roll steel. I turned the outer diameter and then bored the center hole until the gas bung dropped in. Then I located the bolt hole pattern using the stock alumimum flange before drilling the holes on my drill press.

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Kdkerr2
Posted on Saturday, August 03, 2013 - 12:50 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Here's the parts after they were welded together by the welder at Starr Stainless here in Elizabethtown KY. They only charged me $10.00 for the job and did it while I waited.

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Kdkerr2
Posted on Saturday, August 03, 2013 - 08:31 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)





Installed in the Cyclone.
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Kdkerr2
Posted on Saturday, August 03, 2013 - 11:32 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)





Here's the pic of the completed assembly,fabricated one off bung with Drag Specialties vented screw-in H-D style gas cap [P.N. DS390135]. I gave it a real test ride today of 162 miles and no problems.
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Kevmean
Posted on Monday, August 05, 2013 - 11:56 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Have they got pidgeons nesting in that welders workshop?
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Buell_bert
Posted on Wednesday, August 07, 2013 - 12:00 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Kevmean you really are MEAN (maybe). Are you talkin what I think ya'll are?
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Kdkerr2
Posted on Wednesday, August 07, 2013 - 08:04 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

No. Starr Stainless is a thoroughly modern building, made of steel. No pigeons roosting in the rafters and no birdsh*t.
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Bluzm2
Posted on Wednesday, August 07, 2013 - 10:36 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

I think he's referring to the weld quality...
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Kdkerr2
Posted on Thursday, August 08, 2013 - 12:14 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Hmm. I can see what you mean. However crude it works. I could not have done as well. I would have blown large holes in the bung had I tried.
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Harleyelf
Posted on Thursday, August 08, 2013 - 02:27 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Dissimilar metals both in composition and thickness, with the requirement that the thin-wall piece be welded on its work-hardened rolled lip!

It might not be even but it's fuel-tight around the perimeter. I'd pay ten bucks for it.
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Kevmean
Posted on Thursday, August 08, 2013 - 04:45 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

; )
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Bluzm2
Posted on Friday, August 09, 2013 - 10:46 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Tig it, not mig..
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Buell_bert
Posted on Friday, August 09, 2013 - 05:34 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Tig/ Mig or Stick it all looks good if you have a good Applicator (welder). And some can do it all. I have tried it all and if it looks good I just got lucky which happens if I practice a bit. A couple of my Friends and my Boy do it for a living so they don't need to get lucky.
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Bluzm2
Posted on Sunday, August 11, 2013 - 10:59 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Yeah, know whatcha mean. I do it enough now that most beads look pretty decent. But the TIG part took a while to "blow out the dust". I was pretty good at it 30+ years ago but it's a skill you have to keep up on or lose it. It does come back though. The real thin stuff is still a challenge to get the stack of dimes.....
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