| Author | Message | ||
     Blake |
Arvel, I think ya meant to say "local bucking"? Another aspect to consider... the bottom of the SSSArm (the area most in harms way of rocks and such) would not be carrying compression. "Fun"? I forgive you Arvel; I've grown used to beer spewing outa my nose when reading this board. The prospects of performing a hand analysis of even a quasi-isotropic laminate makes my stomach turn. Blake (wishing he were home in TX, where his M2 sits waiting) | ||
| S2no1 |
Blake, Your right, DOH. And I even have a degree or two in that stuff. However, I was thinking more about the F1, they should have several components in various states of compression. It the current term local buckling, my old note just said compression buckling, like I said been a while. I must admit the last time I did a composite by hand was a 45/0/45 with a simplified solution during an examination in general terms. Been, well a long time. I expect you didn't enjoy Continuum Mechanics either? Years ago, that was fun. Now, where's my computer, spreadsheet, MathCad, any thing but by hand. Rocket, Works been real busy. I finally broke down and got a new scanner. Give me about 48 hours. Arvel | ||
| S2no1 |
Rocket, The term is prepeg. Arvel | ||
| Rocketman |
Navel : I know. It was a poor attempt at humour  Rocket in England | ||
| Mikej |
spRocket, That British humour gets us every time. MikeJaybird | ||
| Blake |
err "prepreg" as in pre-impregnated (happened to a guy I know, scary thought that) to analy correct Smarvel's typo. Continuum Mechanics: Indian Motorcycle wrenchers working overtime? BAHAHA hahah hehe heh ... (I guess you hadda be there). Blake (cold and rainy 2day in NJ) | ||
| Dougp |
So does "prepreg" = "fore-play"? this technical shitte is very interesting | ||
| Blake |
nope - "pre" as in "already" impregnated... yikes! | ||
| S2no1 |
Blake, I like that, need to find an Indian picture and make some edits. Thanks for the typo correction. I gotta quit writing these posts right before bed. Doug, Well, that depends on whether your a weave or a wove. Rocket, Sorry, I are an engineer, they take out the sense of humor, or at least really screw it up, somewhere in your senior year at college. The worst are DBLE's (electical engineers). They take absolutely everything literally. Arvel | ||
| Blake |
Go gitim Aaron. Ewwww, Aaron' s gonna git you Arvel. You know how those upity Coloradians despise us Texans. Oooh you gonn agit it boy! In fact the whole durn Wilson family mounted on dyno tuned Buells may be a gunnin fer ya. Better hide quick like. Weave and wove or warp and fill? Nothin like a good ole five harness GR/EP twill for fabbin some hot Buell body parts. | ||
| S2no1 |
Blake, Can't hide. Too tired tonight. Maybe tomorrow. At least his Buells are dyno tuned and in one piece. Arvel | ||
| S2no1 |
Some notes on composites: Fiber Types and strengths:  Specific Tensile Strength  Fatigue Stregnth  Temperature Selection  Impact Damage  Some Math for Blake  | ||
| Ralph |
Oh sure, but have you ever tried to form that crap with a hammer? It just falls apart. I'll stick with that old fashioned metal stuff. Although, if you happen to know where I could get some CF rod suitable for push rod bodies let me know. You know, not 'cause it's better or anything, just to try something new bighairyralph | ||
| Chuck |
YOU CAN'T TEACH A "BIG" OLD "HAIRY" R . . . DOG NEW TRICKS  | ||
| S2no1 |
Ralph, An intersesting side note to this is the ceramic materials in the temperature selection chart. Excellent properties for pistons. I recall PPia or Grizzly posting about a fellow who fabricated a ceramic engine for a Buell. Very interesting. I think the point of this exercise is that the on a weight strength basis a composite really can't be beat, as long as the temp isn't above the matrix tolerance and you remember to include all of the environmental factors in your design. The really cute part is that one reason for composites great strength is the fact that since the cross sectional area is lower for stress carrying members the chances for a failure plane existing are much less, i.e., since they strands are really small, they have less molecular level defects and the strength can approach that of the molecular bond. Just food for thought. Oh yeah, your right, they really don't like to be beat on. But think about the unsprung weight you could save. Ceramic disks (no more warping) composite framee, wheel and swingarms, ceramic motors with high tolerances and low heat retention. Amazing stuff, and these notes are almost 20 years old (ouch, gave away my age there.) The real problem seem to be the production cost an material change overs. I think a lot of manufactures have played with these materials at one point or another, but the wheels of progress turn slow, very slow. Arvel | ||
| Ralph |
Arvel, I remember seeing a ceramic motor when I was in high school. That'd be the stated twenty years ago. I think the most important factor is "ceramic motors with high tolerances. I see machinings from "modern" manufactures that bring tears to my eyes they are so bad. Then again, how much machining would be done on ceramics. More like slip molds. Hey, how about I use a tea saucer for my disc brakes? In all seriousness I never discount the use of carbon fiber and ceramics. As you said it all comes down to application and the environment the object would be operating in. More important for me is the simple ability to utilize super-spiffy stuff. I can't. Smashing on a piece of aluminum sheet however is definatly up my alley. As is just about anything I can use a hammer on. I like hammers. Hell, I love hammers. Hammers are my friend. bighairyralph | ||
| Chuck |
I'D RATHER BE A HAMMER THAN A NAIL . . . I "WOOD". | ||
| S2no1 |
Ralph, I have more hammers in my tool kit than ratchets. Hmm, is that a good or bad thing? Arvel | ||
| Ralph |
Dude, that can only be a good thing. bighairyralph | ||
| Bluzm2 |
BHR, Is the old adge true: When all you have is a hammer, everything looks like a nail? (Maybe a hunk of aluminum?) ;-) BluzM2 | ||
| Rippin |
Anyone seen the v-thunders velva-ride front motor mounts that fit 80-00 fxr-flt's? Looks quite a bit like something that's takin a shite 2wice on the front of me m2. V-thunder says substantially far superior to oe isomount. Has anyone tried them? They also say reduces vibes by as much as 50%.ya aha. any thoughts appreciated. thanks Ryan | ||
| Ducboy |
Does anyone know if a shock from an S1 will bolt on to a 2000 M2? (the M2 has its original front mount, not the one for the upgrade} thanks | ||
| Mikej |
In the sarcastic words of one of them old time television dudes: "wunnerfull wunnerfull wunnerfull" Guess what I get to do, I get to help train new staff at my local dealership. Now as a customer I shouldn't have to do this, but alas 'tis a task I must become enjoined with. My local dealership just moved into a new bigger better building, and with that comes a bunch of additional new staff. Now this shouldn't be a big deal, but some of that staff is in the service department. Couple that with some new person acting with some level of management and a possible authority complex and things get interesting. Me new service people I'm planning on bringing my bike in for service and want to see if you have any of the new shocks available person #1: I'll have to ask someone person/mgr-type #2: Did you have the recall done? Yes, but I'd like to have the new shock installed now that it's available. #2: We can only do that if your shock fails. No, it's my choice to get the SRP replaced with the new shock. I'll have to check on that. Ah yes, new service bays divided up into categories, simple service is done first come first served with no appointments. Seems like it would be a good time to get the new shock if I have the bike in there anyway getting some work done. I'll be calling back on Monday and hopefully will get thru to some of the old staff who are now one level farther removed from the customers, isolated and insulated with the new as-yet miseducated/misinformed staff. At least one of them seemed nice and willing to learn and at least listen, the other one came across as a most unpleasant descriptive term. Hopefully I just caught that person on a bad day. Granted, the recalls and interpretation of those recalls is confusing, but it really shouldn't be that hard to understand. Oh well, had a nice ride today in any case. And less than an hour after I returned home it started raining. Next week might be just nothing, or it might become an interesting hassle, and could get educational for one or more people at my local dealership. I can wait if need be, but don't tell me I can't have something that I know I'm entitled to. If it isn't in stock then fine, but don't give me misinformation. If they don't know, why can't they just say so instead of first saying no, and then after a bit more discussion they say "I'll have to look into it". Ah yes, could be an educational week indeed. Sorry for the griping, not really a big deal, just a hassle that shouldn't have to be. I may end up using the side door next week, what shall be shall be. MikeJ (warm and dry, inside) | ||
| Buelliedan |
Mike, I have heard that the new Hals is huge!! Let's hope they actually give a little more space for bikes instead of just clothes like most dealers!! As for the shock, Call Buell customer service. I had the same preoblem with my dealer and John took care of it with one simple phone call to the dealer here. | ||
| Mikej |
Dan, I think MoTown near Detroit is bigger, or at least felt that way. My approximation at Hal's is that of their total building space, probably 66%-75% is service bays and work/shop space. Of the remaining area it is probably in thirds, 1/3rd bikes, one third parts/accessories, one third clothing. With the parts counter along a wall. Offices are upstairs in the non-public area. They still need a minor fix in the parking lot where the asphault doesn't quite meet up with the concrete bike parking strip, you have up to a 3" edge to get over. I'm going to play by the rules with them and let them get the info themselves if they can. I'm not their typical customer, so sometimes I know more than they think I should. Could be a non-issue, but I do want to know if they have the shock in stock before I deliver my bike for service. Otherwise I'll just service it myself after buying a few more tools. Just thought it'd be nice to have them do the whole package at one time. An hour after I got home yesterday it was raining, an hour after that it was snowing, today it's clear blue skys with snow on the car and 40°F outside. Ya gotta love Wisconsin in the Springtime. Oops, this is the shock section, sorry, I'll post a follow-up once I have more shocking info. MikeJ (uh, spring foreward, fall back, on the clock, right???) | ||
| Frenchbuelldog |
Since i got my shock recall done on my 98 m2 in november 2000, i feel that the bike doesn't stick the road as it did , particularly at high speed in curves. Some people has the same problem ? Can i fix it or simply the new shock sucks ? Thanks for all responses because i like to ride , and i like when the bike doesn't make any strange movement in curves . Christophe | ||
| Blackbuellm2 |
Mike, I too have been going through the educational process with my local dealer. Even to the point of taking copies of the recall paperwork to the service manager. It's become a battle of wills. Like you I know I am entitled to the new shock. But the attitude I'm getting is one of paying HD customers are much more important to us we'll get to you when we can. Leave yopur bike with us for an undefined length of time, in spite of the fact we've ignored TWO scheduled apointments, and eventually we'll get to you. And yes the mechanic was mistaken, we never ordered a shock for you, I don't know why he ever called you and said it was in stock.... I've owned every brand of Jap bike there is, and A Ducati besides. Never have I had such a lame ••• excuse for poor customer service. Frankly I will never purchase another Buell until the company gets their act together and treats me as I deserve after spending the amount of miney I have on the bike, extended warranty, and clothing. Don't get me wrong, I LOVE the bike. never before have I owned a bike with as much of a giggle factor. I go out to the garage and start it just to listen to it run. And yeah Kim, I will call BMC customer service, it's my ace in the hole. I hope. | ||
| Bushmasta |
I have just bought a 2000 S3 demo bike, before i drove off with it, i noticed the shock leaking. the dealer said he would look at it.(with a demo i have a 12yr mechanical warranty) It was revealed to me by the dealer that my shock was recalled, dealer said no problem we will keep the bike and replace the shock. well, three weeks later no shock and the bike sits at the dealer. I'm told that the recall shock was recalled and the Dealer has no idea when Buell might send out the new ones. He commented that, Buell has taken up to 6 months to get recall parts out. tell me this isn't so. they can't expect to keep new Buell riders with this kind of service. I talked with a buell rider at the dealer and he recommended this site saying there might be a backdoor way of getting the shock faster. I pretty ticked, right now. Beautiful bike i've had for 3 going on 4 weeks now and is sitting at the dealer awaiting shock. I have wanted a Buell for a long time, and finally got one and found service like this. Maybe its the dealer, but he says that he has been calling Buell and putting pressure on about the shock with now results. any ideas? Your help is greatly appreciated. I would love to start riding my Buell espically before the summer. Aye, jim i hope to get the bike someday and hook up with some other AZ Buell owners. please email me with ideas, or ways of getting a recalled shock. i hope i don't have to wait 6 months b/c Buell can't get their stuff togther or maybe its the dealer, who knows. thanks jhbushmasta@aol.com | ||
| Aaron |
Your dealer is misinformed and/or yanking your chain (let me guess, Hacienda?). The '99-'00 recall shock has not been recalled, and they are available, people are getting them within about a week. Call Buell Customer Service. | ||
| Blake |
To clarify... The original shock assy on your 2000 S3 was recalled. The initial fix was to install a safety strap (SRP) only. If the recall shock assy leaks or you don't like the look of the SRP, you get a new 2001 shock free of charge. Your dealer ought to be able to get a new 2001 shock within days. |
