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Okimted
Posted on Tuesday, May 11, 2010 - 09:02 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Can you help? Just completed a complete top end overhaul on my 99 s3t, jugs,pistons and heads. Now went for a ride, maybe 5 miles and its running rich. It sputters and pops a bit until around 3500 the its turbo time! Smooths out after 3500. Pulled the plugs and they were black. I checked the easy stuff plugs, harness connections.Battery will lose voltage after 3 to 4 days. But at 12.8v and running over 13v right know. Could this be an issue? Engine light does not show codes. Anyone have a idea? Thanks
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Blake
Posted on Wednesday, May 12, 2010 - 12:47 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Trouble at lower engine speeds can indicate TPS issues. Be sure your TPS rezero/reset was sound and performed precisely as required.
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Shooter
Posted on Wednesday, May 12, 2010 - 01:09 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

This sounds similar to my saga...I am going to check the ecm ground tonight. I believe all the sensors and the ecm share a common ground path. Can some one confirm where this is?
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Okimted
Posted on Wednesday, May 12, 2010 - 10:21 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

any instructions on tps zeroing? never removed it from throttle body, guess it doesn't matter? dang i miss carburetors. i do thank you for any advise, was told ecm might need to remap and a 5 mile drive at around 3500 rpm might do it, it didn't.
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Okimted
Posted on Thursday, May 13, 2010 - 09:58 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

did some checking, found that the engine temp sender is located in a different spot on the new head. 99 they're on the side, newer are in the middle. would this be causing problem?
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Shooter
Posted on Thursday, May 13, 2010 - 11:53 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

They engine temp sensor was moved as a running change on the 2000 models. My 2000 S3 came with the ETS outboard on the head. When I put new heads on it the sensor had been moved to the "tunnel' deep in the head. Then when I replaced it, the newest iteration had a duetch connector vs. A straight bullet connector.

Read this:

application/vnd.openxmlformats-officedocument.wordprocessingml.documentDDFI
Buell DDFI.docx (99.5 k)
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Okimted
Posted on Tuesday, May 18, 2010 - 12:04 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

read the update, figure that the ecm has to be remapped. heading to dealer on thursday to hook to scanner. $229 later!!!!, 20min work.
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Kalali
Posted on Tuesday, May 18, 2010 - 08:24 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Get ECMSPY. Well worth the price...Oh, it's free...!
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Okimted
Posted on Tuesday, May 18, 2010 - 10:55 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

How? What? When? Where? Can I get a disc? Of course I'd cover cost of disc and shipping.
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Kalali
Posted on Tuesday, May 18, 2010 - 11:09 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Well, actually the program itself is free but you need a cable ($40-$60) to connect your laptop to the ECM. A lot of folks got the program disc when they bought the cable off e-bay. I also remember a site (other than the ECMSPY site) where the program was still available for download. I'll look for it.
If all those options fail, drop me a PM and I'll see what I can do...
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Shooter
Posted on Tuesday, May 18, 2010 - 11:16 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

I bought the cable on e-bay, and the guy selling them sent me the software. If you own a fuel injected buell, you need this software.Here is a link to some sellers (I cant vouch for these guys directly )

http://motors.shop.ebay.com/i.html?_nkw=ecm+spy&_s acat=6028&_sop=7&_odkw=Buell&_osacat=6028&bkBtn=&_ trksid=p4506.m270.l1313
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Okimted
Posted on Wednesday, May 19, 2010 - 10:23 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Dudes! thanks ever so much! I'm on it. Canceled dealer appointment, ordered cable. Never had this trouble with xb, but these tubers are worth it.
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Kalali
Posted on Wednesday, May 19, 2010 - 11:48 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

While waiting for the cable, I suggest you go to the ECMSPY website, download the Tuning Guide and familiarize yourself with the tool before you dive into it.
Hopefully all you'll need to do is a TPS reset and the directions for that are spelled out really well in the Tuning Guide. All the best.
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