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Edmanning
Posted on Tuesday, January 02, 2001 - 11:50 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Does anyone know if bar end mirrors "CNC" will work with the crossroads or Buell race, look like clipons. An early article by Reg in Battle2win said nay.
Also, As in Dannys question, anybody know of some superbike "K&N" bars that are lower and narrower than stock that will work with conventional barends?
Thanks, Ed "Hillbilly" Manning
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Johne
Posted on Thursday, January 04, 2001 - 11:39 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

I'm thinking about buying the Banke peg relocater on an M2. That would be great if anyone could let me know what they think about them. Should the shifter and brake pedal be relocated?

Thanks for any advice you can give.
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Mikex1
Posted on Monday, January 08, 2001 - 08:26 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Anyone have a X1 with Crossroads bars? I'm looking at buying some but afraid of the bike being uncomfortable. Any input would be great. E-mail me at mmchughes@aol.com.

Thanks, Ride Safe!!!!


MikeX1
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Ralph
Posted on Sunday, January 14, 2001 - 05:36 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Got bored the other day at work

bighairybars

Idle hands are the devils tool.

bighairyralph
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Fastback69
Posted on Sunday, January 14, 2001 - 06:39 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Ralphy,

Either, you like all the creature comforts of home in the garage, or your bike is in the living room. Married, or should I ask, still married?
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Edmanning
Posted on Sunday, January 14, 2001 - 09:59 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Nice Work, Ralph, I just installed a set of the crossroads on the Ol M2, And yes the CNC "Hindsight" barend mirrors work with them.
Bad news is the controls as in light switches will hit the tank if turned all the way. Im thinking about using the gas tank rubber mounts for bumpers.
SeeYa, Ed "Hillbilly" Manning
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H_Man
Posted on Monday, January 15, 2001 - 01:03 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Hey Ralph, What's that small dial in the lower right? Is that a fuel guage? Is that bike a '01 M2? I recently ordered some parts for my '00 M2. The '01 dash panel is one of the parts I ordered. I'd hate to have an open circle on my dash after I install the tach.

H-man
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Ralph
Posted on Monday, January 15, 2001 - 01:47 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Fastback, when the girl moved in there was a Panhead in the "Dining" room. Now the S3's in the living room, and a Sportster is in the kitchen. I let her know from the very beginning how things work. Hell, I've made concessions, the S1 is in the garage!

Ed, haven't put the controls on yet, so I'm not sure if I'll have problems. Hey, if you think the controls are a problem, think about the fairing!

H-Man, that dial is my clock. Because clock bellied Buells are better than bare bellied sneetches....I mean Buells without clocks.
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Travis
Posted on Monday, January 15, 2001 - 03:01 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Yeah Raplh, let me know how that fairing works out, i have been wanting something a lttile more aggressive on my S3 for a while. And havent been able to go get an S1w yet.

Travis
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Jiml
Posted on Monday, January 15, 2001 - 06:07 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Ralph (BHR)

I'm almost certain that you'll have to do a little trimming to the fairing for those bars to work properly. You could try raising them a little. I'm sure when you get it back together it will be clear as mud.

Ed (Hillbilly)

On your M2 did you put the S1 & M2 bars from Crossroads? What if you had gone with the S1W, X1 bars on instead?

later,
jiml
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Bomber
Posted on Monday, January 15, 2001 - 06:16 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Hairy

nice lookin dash . . . . home, build, I assume . . . . what material didja use? my aluminum dash is about 1/4 done, hopin to have a free weekend soon to finish it up
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Eeeeek
Posted on Monday, January 15, 2001 - 09:22 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

That's an S3, right? So would that make that a stock dash and it's the bars you made special, which brings up another questin: how's the clearance around the fairing?

Vik
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Aikigecko
Posted on Tuesday, January 16, 2001 - 12:56 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Hey Ralph,
Did you use solid stock for the bars or did you use hollow tubes. I've been thinking that solid would reduce vibration and as long as it was aluminum it wouldn't be to heavy. As well as being stronger and easier to attach tpo the plate than steel tubes. I have been working on my own design for my Blast since I saw that Xroads wanted $190 for theirs.
Peace
Tony
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Buellish
Posted on Tuesday, January 16, 2001 - 06:55 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

I Just ordered the Millenium X1 foot pegs.And now I see the top of this section.Do I need the spring loaded parts to make them work?

Thanks Mike
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Drandall
Posted on Tuesday, January 16, 2001 - 01:36 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Buellish,

You can use the new-style aluminum pegs without the spring kit, but the kit makes it so much nicer; I'd recommend the springs.


David
'00 X1 RS
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Ralph
Posted on Tuesday, January 16, 2001 - 02:10 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Jim, in order to use those bars with the stock fairing I would have to do a little more than massive trimming. I'm just test fitting them right now. Once I get started on the new body they'll stay on for good. Now I just have to get started on the rear sets....

Bomber, that's just a stock '97 S3 dash. I'll make something flashier later. Flash comes last.

Travis, it's going to be a bit. I got alot of irons in the fire. I'm hoping to get the body going early this spring. Considering it took me a year to get the bike torn down for Axtell Mountain motor...

Tony, the bars are solid. Start out at 1 inch and neck down to 7/8ths. I'll probably thread the ends for bar end mirrors (in case they end up on the S1 for awhile). I don't think the weight of the solid bar will make a diddly of a difference with vibration. You could always hog out the ends some more and pour in some lead.

Mike, you can use the pegs without the springs. But why? The springs are cheap and I think kinda neat. Heck, I don't even have the pegs but I use the springs.

bighairyralph
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Buellish
Posted on Thursday, January 18, 2001 - 09:06 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Howdy Ralph! I didn't know about the springs until
after I ordered the pegs.But I'll get-um.
Do you remember taking my picture during Battle
Trax at Homecoming?Short(compared to you),clean
cut(compared to you)and quite good looking.Riding
a 96 S2 in a lovely shade of purple.

Who makes bar end weights for one inch bars?

Mike(somewhat less hairy than BHR)Powell
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Bored
Posted on Friday, January 19, 2001 - 11:45 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Heard something about pumping silicone into the handlebars, to reduce vibration. Anyone try that? Does it work?

Hope so, 'cuz I did just that a week ago. Can't test until April though.
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Ralph
Posted on Friday, January 19, 2001 - 02:34 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Sure Mike, how could I forget. But, your bike is blue man. Says so right from the factory.

Silicone? I don't know, you tell me in April. Most people use lead. Maybe lead shot in silicone?

bighairyralph
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Bomber
Posted on Friday, January 19, 2001 - 03:06 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

I tried the silicone-in-the-handlebars trick on my thumper . . . . . a mechanical engineer pal told me that it should dampen the vibrations by absorbing them, as opposed to putting lead into the bars, which does damp the vibes so much as change the frequency at which the bars will vibrate sympathetically with the engine, road vibes, and whining person riding pillion ;-}

If it had an effect, I couldn't feel it . . .when I told my engineer friend, he said, "#*&%, when did you start listening to ME?" He went on to say that he was confident that SOME amount of dampening was going on, but perhaps not enough to feel, and that the effect might be more obvious on a scoot whose vibe were of much higher frequency (like a UJM). Seems the vibration on my M2 is a great deal more like that in my thumper, and less like a UMJ.

But, to quote my buddy, when didja start listening to ME?

;-}

Oh yeah . . .. if ya DO fill yer bars with silicone, don't even think to try and get it out later if you decide to mount bar-end mirrors or turn-signals . . . ..

rosberg
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Jmartz
Posted on Friday, January 19, 2001 - 05:07 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Has anybody sent their Buell seat to Sargent in Jacksonville? I'm thinking of redoing my S1 seat since Force does not seem to offer that cool upholstery job anymore.

Jose
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Aikigecko
Posted on Friday, January 19, 2001 - 05:24 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

I haven't used silicone but I did use the spray foam insulation. This stuff expands....fast. I would recommend doing it with your handlebars off (I didn't and the mess involved is a B#$%!@ to clean up). You have to spray it in both sides but the can comes with a handy straw (Heat it up and neck down the opening) to do this. Have plenty of Goo Off handy to clean everything afterward and make sure to get everything off the throttle side of the bar (I learned that just a little left is enough to cause throttle to stick). You can use a cheap plastic barend to open up enough room to attach barend type accessories while the foam is still wet. It works fairly well on my blast but my barend mirrors don't have enough mass to add any additional damping.
Peace
Tony
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Mariner
Posted on Saturday, January 20, 2001 - 11:09 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

For those of you looking for handlebar options on your X-1, I was able to use M900 (Ducati Monster) bars. Pretty close to the tank cover, but they work great. They do put you considerably lower and further forward than the stockers, but at 60+ the weight is off your arms.

Ed
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Buellish
Posted on Monday, January 22, 2001 - 07:00 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Ralph, I think those Buell painters were sniffin'
too many fumes back in 96'.Uhh...scratch scratch
Parkway Blue,wonder what this looks like.

WOW LOOK AT THAT!!
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Ralph
Posted on Monday, January 22, 2001 - 01:03 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Ain't that the damn truth. It sucks when you already have the catalog printed without ever seeing the color!

bighairyralph
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Bueller
Posted on Saturday, January 27, 2001 - 09:29 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

For those of you looking for different bars for your X-1, here's what M900 (Ducati Monster) bars look like. Yes, they're very close when "hard over", but don't actually touch the tank cover.

Ed
/image{X-1 bars.jpg}
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Bueller
Posted on Saturday, January 27, 2001 - 09:36 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

ahem . . . 1,X-1 bars.jpg
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Bueller
Posted on Saturday, January 27, 2001 - 11:57 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

3rd time's the charm?1,X-1 bars2
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Bueller
Posted on Sunday, January 28, 2001 - 12:10 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

one last try . . . X-1 bars 3
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Drandall
Posted on Monday, January 29, 2001 - 11:39 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Installed an '01 X1 shifter today. Not a difficult job, but it sure is ugly! The old mechanism at least had symmetry. It works pretty well, though.

The plastic shifter bushings are even worse than the old ones (I assume becuase they're smaller). Tat, how 'bout some metal ones???


David
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