| Author | Message | ||
     Drandall |
Recall shocks for '00 Buells: I've been told that the new S3 shock has a progressively-sound spring, where the X1 shock doesn't. Should I try to get an S3 recall shock for my X1? Thanks, David | ||
| Dave |
Jammer, After hearing one service department waffle on whether Buell would cover replacing my stock 99 S3 shock that decided to puke it's contents, I got a hold of Customer Service and they said it would be covered. (Not only that, but she said she'd call the dealership to make sure the correct part was ordered and to discuss 2nd day air delivery!) I've rode an S3 with the new 2001 type shock on it and it seemed to be an improvement. DAve Yeah Neil, a trip to EVV sounds great. Maybe a dyno day? Jim L, SLAB plans on ridin' to Mt Vernon --let's hook up -- we'll post to the regional area | ||
| Sparky |
My dealer eventually found out that he needed to get a Recall Authorization # for a Goodwill Warranty from Harley's (Buell) Tech Services to get reimbursed on the upgrade replacements for leaking recall Showas. This missing bit of info apparently was not mentioned when my dealer called Harley to verify applicable recalls to my Buell since Harley only lists publicly announced recalls. The poor guy was getting the runaround for weeks until he made the breakthrough today. "What we have here is a breakdown in communication." Make sure your dealer has Service Bulletin B-035A that covers the installation of the new shock and knows how to initiate a Goodwill Warranty. You'll love the new shock. Thanks to 'Darkside' Danny and Deanne at Modesto Buell for the insight. Sparky 96S1, 98S3 | ||
| Tims |
A 97 M2 fully fuelled/ oiled weighs 215kgs 474lbs | ||
| Hein |
Shocks.... Since it looks like I have some doekoes to spend after my unfortunate touchdown, I'm open for some advice on shocks. I want to improve the ride. Penske? Technoflex? Other suggestions? S1WL Hein Ouch it hurts in Am*dam | ||
| Peter |
Hein, Have a look here at one blokes opinion of the difference between 'push' and 'pull' shocks. PPiA | ||
| Drandall |
New '01 recall shock on my '00 X1: Kurt at Eastside Buell in Bellevue, WA installed the recall '01 shock on my '00 X1 yesterday (thanks Kurt!). My ride home is about thirty miles (and it was drizzly), but it confirmed that the new shock is MUCH better than the old one (better spring rate, and damping/dampening). But, something about the new shock transfers lot more vibration to the rider. It was shaking so much more than when I dropped the bike off at the dealer that morning, that I actually stopped and checked the oil, and saw-to-it that nothing was falling of the bike. Has anyone else found this? Tootles, David | ||
| Chuck |
David, Is your new shock adjustable for "rebound" damping  If so, try increasing "rebound". | ||
| Hans |
Peter an all, I still am convinced that our shocks are nothing special: Just a normal compression shock and spring, used following this priciple:  Hans | ||
| Peter |
Hans, I've never had one apart. I don't know. Anyone reading this know the basics of the Showa? PPiA | ||
| Hans |
The Penske is more open and here I can imagine the compression spring and damper better with the position of the outside compression can. All the structures within the pull rods will be compressed while the shock, as a whole between the eyes, straightens out.  | ||
| Peter |
Hans, That shows how the spring works, but isn't the damping rod still being pulled out, instead of being pushed in? PPiA | ||
| Rocketman |
I spoke with a WP UK tech before Christmas. He said WP were in the process of bringing to market, a linkage type shock for Buell's. Technoflex, Hyperpro and all the rest of those Dutch companies were well rated by this tech, perhaps because they're all companies set up by ex-WP staff, but he rated only WP and Ohlins as been in the same league, premier division. He also said the pull type shock had not performed that well. They've tried it in road racing and GP's with limited success. The WP link shock they are developing is going to have rebound and compression damping. The shock and the link come as two separate items. Obviously, you'll need both for a first time install. Complete package estimated around £650. Hope this helps  Rocket in England | ||
| Hans |
Peter, I suppose the upper billet ring is fixed on the compression(?)chamber and the lower eye at the end of the pistonrod on the lower billet ring. The construction is then overall just as the other shocks of the 8900 serie. Can`t imagine that Penske developed for Buell a complete new principle. Here the normal Penske:  | ||
| Hans |
MMmm, I see not much difference in diameter in the black midparts where the Buell Penske is supposed to shove in. Maybe indeed real pull shock and compression spring. Hans. | ||
| Paisan |
I have a 99m2. Is a leak going to be the only way I am gonna get a dealer to replace that old shock with the new, trick one? I had the recall fix done but that new shock looks great with the resevoir and all. I it has to be a leak to get it done, whats the best way to get this old sucker leaking ? thanks | ||
| Paisan |
I have a 99m2. Is a leak going to be the only way I am gonna get a dealer to replace that old shock with the new, trick one? I had the recall fix done but that new shock looks great with the resevoir and all. I it has to be a leak to get it done, whats the best way to get this old sucker leaking ? thanks | ||
| Dave |
I'm thinking there has to have been a significant number of failed shocks for Buell to step up to the plate and establish a policy that replaces leaking shocks. (Good on Buell for doing the right thing) I'm figuring it's only a matter of time before your Showa throws-up it's contents. DAve | ||
| Jasonl |
Rocket - would this mean we could then retro-fit almost any type of shock we wanted once we fit the linkage to our cycles? | ||
| Rocketman |
Leadtrotter : Good question. I'm no expert, but why should it ? Or should that be, why shouldn't it ? A pull shock is not the same as a push shock, so all pull shocks are out of the question. As for fitting any make of push shock, I dunno, but I would assume WP would make the shock to suit their own linkage, or, the linkage to suit their shock. Whichever you prefer, they're both the same Does anyone else's shock fit the Hyperpro linkage ? When all's said and done, if WP do bring a linkage type shock to market, then shouldn't the question be, why would you want them (other shocks) to ? Cryptically................ Rocket in England | ||
| Peter |
Another thought I've been having, has anyone got the measurement for the Hyperpro, or Technoflex systems, for the distance between the shock eyes? I've got an Ohlins with remote preload adjustment on my BMW, and I think that would be nice sitting under the Buell. Probably only need a spring change.... PPiA | ||
| Hein |
And another one.. Does anyone have any experience with the RAM single sided swingarm? They sell for some 2000 Euros which I think is a bargain if the quality and the ride is as good as the looks... Their website is, I think www.ram.mc.fr but my head is still a mushroom... Fuzzy Hein S1WL in Am*dam | ||
| Hein |
RAM home page Clear moment in Am*dam | ||
| Aaron |
Paisan: You will get a 2001 shock, at no cost, but you have to wait. They have not yet put the program in place to allow those of us with SRP'ed, non-failed, recalled Showas to get the new shock for free. But they will. Be patient. AW | ||
| Chuck |
My dealer ordered a replacement shock for my 2000 M2 two weeks ago; but its still not in. They say its okay to ride; but the shock is leaking pretty badly. I have the SRP installed and I wipe down the outside of the shock body after every ride -- so I don't think it ever drips on the pavement. I just worry about oiling down my rear tire. What do you guys think | ||
| Dave |
Chuck: When I called to get info about the Showa replacement, Buell's Customer Care Line mentioned to me that there is express shipping (2nd day) procedures dealerships can utilize. I'm sure she said it was mentioned in the service bulletin as well. Maybe mention it to your service department or call Buell 414.343.8400 (Rene knows her shi... er ... Buell info) DAve | ||
| Aaron |
Chuck: don't ride it. And not just because of it's effect on the handling. A leak can be the result of internal breakage (but not necessarily). That's what the back half of your SRP is there for. But it's not worth taking a chance. | ||
| Chuck |
Thanks for looking out for me, guys  | ||
| Joepitz |
Have a 97 Cyclone, Does anyone know If a set of inverted front forks off of an S1 or X1 will fit in the stock triple clamp. Also is there any other compatibility issues matching up the forks with the existing Cyclone stock front-end parts. (Wheel, Brakes, speedo, or mounting hardware) Thanks | ||
| Drandall |
Joepitz, The M2 forks with the brace are stiffer than X1/X3/S1 forks; I'd install Racetech springs and valves instead. |
