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Nallac
Posted on Sunday, October 04, 2009 - 12:21 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

I want to be able to start my X1 in gear.
Can i bypass what ever switch to allow
starting in gear?.

If so how?.

I do realise its a safety thing, but i think i can handle the responsibility myself.....
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Sparky
Posted on Sunday, October 04, 2009 - 01:02 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

The clutch switch allows it to start if the gearbox is not in neutral. It is probably not working either because its contacts are dirty or burned out, or a wire to it is not making a good connection. That's why it doesn't start in gear.

Another reason could be a defective diode in the wiring or a fault in the starter interlock wiring itself.

First things first. You can remove the clutch switch and try cleaning it with electrical contact cleaner from Radio Shack or an auto parts store. There's one screw holding it in place and, I believe, you have to pull the lever in slightly to get the tang out without breaking it. Squirt the cleaner into one of the holes in the switch, work the switch several times to scrub the contacts clean and squirt it again. If you have a air compressor, blow the gunk out. If you have a multimeter, check for continuity and proper switch function; reinstall the switch.

If cleaning it doesn't work then buy a new switch.
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Nallac
Posted on Monday, October 05, 2009 - 12:22 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Thanks Sparky,So they are supposed to be able to start in gear?,I will give that a try.

(Message edited by nallac on October 05, 2009)
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Nallac
Posted on Monday, October 05, 2009 - 03:57 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

stripped and cleaned it,the contacts where quite dirty.still no go in gear.
my multimeter is no go as well will have to borrow one and check switch function.
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Kalali
Posted on Monday, October 05, 2009 - 01:55 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

"So they are supposed to be able to start in gear?"

I think you misunderstood. You CAN NOT start the bike in gear without pulling in the clutch. The clutch "safety" switch is there to stop the bike from accidental starts when the clutch is engaged (lever not pulled in) and the bike IS NOT in neutral. So you want to be able to start the bike while in gear and clutch engaged? May I ask why?
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Blake
Posted on Monday, October 05, 2009 - 02:30 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

No, with the clutch disengaged. Sheesh.
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Nallac
Posted on Tuesday, October 06, 2009 - 12:33 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Kalali, what i mean't was with the clutch
pulled in.
The previous owner told me it would only start in Nuetral.

I've just gotta find the fault so can start it in gear,With the clutch in.....


All sorted,completely stripped and cleaned switch again
all good now

(Message edited by nallac on October 06, 2009)
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Kalali
Posted on Tuesday, October 06, 2009 - 10:48 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Sorry I misread your post.
Glad it all worked out for you.
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Sportyeric
Posted on Tuesday, October 06, 2009 - 12:23 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

I read it the same as Mohsen did. In earlier days (i.e. when my bikes were built), there wasn't a safety switch and both my S2 and my Sportster will indeed start in gear. Only had to drop it once to learn that lesson. Well, maybe twice.
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