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Bluecyclone
Posted on Wednesday, July 30, 2003 - 05:11 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Bluzm2,

Thanks for the feedback. 900 miles/day? You are much stronger than me, my man!

So I take it that the higher seat will fit on my M2 low? I had thought that the only difference was the saddle, but feared that if I bought a regular seat, the body would turn out to be different and not handle the new seat. If it does work that should solve my problem. I am tall enough for the higher seat--and my posterior is certainly wide enough to distribute my massive weight.

On a completely unrelated topic, anyone know where I can get an inexpensive seat for my M2 Cyclone?

And I love your blue bikes! I love all the Buells, but to my mind, blue is the best color they have made.

BC
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Mikej
Posted on Wednesday, July 30, 2003 - 05:21 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Undershock mount is different and forks are either different or mounted different, in addition to the seat. As I understand it if you put a regular M2 seat on it you'll have an M2-Medium. A Corbin might make it an M2-MediumLow as they are cut a little deeper and made a little firmer than the stock seats from what people have told me.

My 2000 M2 stock seat was just fine for the ride between Milwaukee to Seattle (around 2,400 miles in 4 days). But then I think the S2 seat would do well as well but unfortunately (or fortunately) won't get the chance to test that out this year.

And risking the wrath of the topic police....
Brad, are you getting rid of the S2 exhaust you have? If so, is it functional? I may be thinking of a winter project with the S2 and an exhaust would be in the picture if the budget allows.
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Bluzm2
Posted on Wednesday, July 30, 2003 - 05:39 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Mike,
I haven't decided yet, I may keep it.
I'm thinking of a custom fab from Stainless Steel Specialties.
I think Al Lighton had one made up for his S3.
I may do the same for the S2.
If I decide to change it out, I'll make hure you get first dibs...

Brad

BTW I want back and checked my records, my longest day was only a bit over 800 miles, Oops!
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M2me
Posted on Wednesday, July 30, 2003 - 05:57 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Bluecyclone,

I bought an Airhawk Pro Pad last year. It works great, very comfortable! I only need to stop for gas and bathroom breaks. I only use it for longer trips, especially if I'll be on the interstate. Most riding around town/short trips I don't bother with it. I like it because it's totally portable. Instead of investing in a seat that will only fit an M2 I can use the pad forever on different bikes. It's on my bike in my profile picture. I just throw it on the seat. It has a non-slip bottom and it doesn't move.

Here is a link
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Mikej
Posted on Thursday, July 31, 2003 - 08:34 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

I think my longest day on my trip was leaving Cody Wyoming around 10am, riding through Yellowstone, out into West Yellowstone, up to Bozeman Montana, across to Missoula, down hwy-12 Yolo canyon, and into Lewiston Idaho around midnight. I'd have to check but it was around 880 or so miles. Words to the wise, Yolo hwy-12 has tons of huge bugs right after sunset, we're talking squeegee time on the visor huge, smear them around to find a see-hole with your glove huge. Next time I'll either bring a spray bottle or run it in the daylight. Yuck.

The seat felt just fine.

No problem on the muffler Brad. I've got a few ideas mulling around in my head that I may try once I get the new garage set up.
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Aesquire
Posted on Thursday, July 31, 2003 - 06:57 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

BlueCyclone,
The Buell "custom color matched" seat is quite good. about $216 from Sport Twin.
I gave a ride to a old pal o' mine monday, she masses about 125 lbs. and she said it was the most comfortable motorcycle seat she's ever been on. YMMV I like it a HUGE bit better than my M2L seat. I'm good for at least 2 tanks of gas at a stretch. If you want a backrest, get the Corbin. (more$$$)

Mikej,
I thought the rear shock was different, not the mount.??
Fork tubes & internals, sidestand & shock. (different on M2 & M2L) The lower legs are the same. (don't forget the sidestand!)
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Mikej
Posted on Friday, August 01, 2003 - 08:39 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Could be the shock, or the mount, or both. I think my confusion may come from one vendor offering a lowering kit that included a different mount for the shock.
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Werewulf
Posted on Sunday, August 17, 2003 - 01:53 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

i know its already been done, but i would like to put a one inch handlebars and standard harley controls on a m2. does anyone have any info on doing this? THANKS
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Steveford
Posted on Monday, August 18, 2003 - 06:33 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Finally tried an old tip from Cycle Magazine back in the 70s which is to fill up your handlebar or clip-ons with melted lead (salt water fishing sinkers).
I used a bar of 50/50 silver solder used to make control cables on the r/h Firebolt's bar and the bar now buzzes quite a bit less than with a bar end weight and silicone filler.
The Firebolt was easy as it's just remove bar, slob up the Allen with grease, reinstall Allen, clamp bar in vice and dump in molten metal until it starts to pour out of switch locating holes, let cool, and then fill bar up the rest of the way.
The original tip suggested grinding down a penny and hammering it into one end of the handlebar as a plug.
You can always drill out the handlebar for a bar end mirror or weight if so desired.
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Bigun283
Posted on Friday, September 12, 2003 - 11:42 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

I've been considering the change to a corbin seat for my s1w. I currently have the buell custom solo seat. I think the major problem with all s1 seats is the angle that you sit at. It seems to make you slide up to the tank until you are almost sitting on it. My question is, does the corbin have the same angle as the custom model, and is it wider at the front up towards the tank?
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Mbryan67
Posted on Wednesday, September 17, 2003 - 03:03 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Hey Bigun283. I have a 96 S1 with the Corbin seat and have the same problem. Especially when braking, I slide toward the tank.
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Rick_a
Posted on Saturday, November 15, 2003 - 12:18 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

I ordered a "quick turn" throttle for my bike and found the throttle drum was identical in size to the stocker. Another objective was to eliminate the switches from the throttle housing for more clearance. So...I cut the switch housing portion off the stock housing and am replacing the switches with dash mounted toggles. At least I got one thing accomplished.
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Werewulf
Posted on Saturday, November 15, 2003 - 02:12 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

rick, im interested in removing the switches from my handle bars also. do you have a photo? did you remove all the switches from the bars? did you use standard automotive switches?
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Rick_a
Posted on Saturday, November 15, 2003 - 05:11 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

I don't have a photo...I did remove all the switches and used automotive switches. If you split the housing you'll see that the switch and throttle components are in their own compartments. A little care with a dremel and I cut the switch compartment right out and refinished the remaining throttle housing. Looks pretty trick and factory if done right. All I can show you right now is what I cut off
switch
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Werewulf
Posted on Sunday, November 16, 2003 - 08:44 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

looks good, were you able to do both sides, if so, what did you use for a turn signal switch?
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Rick_a
Posted on Sunday, November 16, 2003 - 08:19 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

I just did one side...I'm leaving the left side switchgear...for now. It's too convenient where it is. The right side was limiting how I could set up my clip-ons and had been annoying me for some time. If I can find some kind of handlebar clamp that can hold a 3-way rocker I'll do the other side.
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Kcs2
Posted on Wednesday, December 03, 2003 - 08:38 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Do any of you guys know of a hydraulic clutch on the market for Buells?
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Bluzm2
Posted on Thursday, December 04, 2003 - 12:00 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Neill,
Check with Tat at American Sport Bike. They used to have a hydraulic setup for Evo's.
I recall seeing the slave cylinder setup but not the master.
The 1" bars on the S2 may be an issue for the master cylinder.

Brad

(or you could get one of those had squeezy things and work on the left forearm! ;))
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Kcs2
Posted on Thursday, December 04, 2003 - 07:30 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Thanks Brad,
I've found that the clutch gets pretty heavy after a long day of riding.

Neill
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Leftcoastal
Posted on Thursday, December 04, 2003 - 10:26 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Neill-- H-D is now offering hydraulic clutches as an accessory. Since your S2 has 1" bars and stock-type for Harley controls, that may be a source for the master cylinder, if there is a slave unit available for XL's and pre-XB buells. I converted my 91 RS to the later type (post '96?) H-D controls & switches, which you may need to do so that the switch housings and the master cyl will mate properly. The V-rod also used a hydraulic clutch, with the same master cyl as the accessory unit, though it's got a different finish. hope that helps. AL
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Bomber
Posted on Friday, December 05, 2003 - 09:41 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

I think the hydro clutch kits are for big twins . . . .I don't remember seeing one for sporties (which, of course, may be more a comment on my memory than anything else)
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Kcs2
Posted on Saturday, December 06, 2003 - 08:07 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Thanks for the advise guys. I'll talk to my local Harley dealer about it.

Neill
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Lake_bueller
Posted on Monday, December 15, 2003 - 01:37 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Anybody running an S1 with Crossroads Rearsets? They're blowing them out online. I was thinking about picking up a set for my S1W project.

Like, dislike, don't care? Let me know.
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Loki
Posted on Monday, December 15, 2003 - 01:53 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Lake,

I am running the Pro-Series which came from cross-roads. Just different mounting set-ups. I fell in love with the Banke set-up on my departed M2. When the S1 showed up my dealer had the Pro-Series on closeout. So I picked them up, I am most definitely not sorry I did either. Much more comfortable than the stockers. I was eye-balling the cross roads fire sale on them also. Some spare parts just in case.

Go for it, you should not be disappointed.

Loki
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Tdshepard
Posted on Tuesday, December 30, 2003 - 03:40 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

I just bought a '97 M2 Cyclone and am on a tight budget. I ordered 2 bronze bushings 6338K425 and 2 bronze washers 5906K515 from McMaster for $2.30 I had to ream the I.D to .637 and trim a few thou off the length. My shifter and brake pedal are now 100% improved over the sloppy plastic parts they came with. The stock shifter is ugly but it does have a lot of leverage.......
Toddbronze bushing on the cheap
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Seeeu911
Posted on Tuesday, December 30, 2003 - 07:51 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

nice job Todd, what did you use to " ream the I.D to .637 and trim a few thou off the length"
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Tdshepard
Posted on Tuesday, December 30, 2003 - 08:15 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

I have access to a lathe at work and took class in "machine shop 101" at the local community college this semester. My point in posting this was we don't always have to buy $34 bushing kits or spend $100-$200 for upgrades or billet parts.
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Captainkirk
Posted on Wednesday, December 31, 2003 - 12:53 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Point well taken! I think some of the best work I've seen in Battle2win was "homebrewed" stuff! Really, that's the kind of info I like to see on this site. Anybody can pick up an American Sport Bike catalog and order anything they want. Nothin' wrong with that, but being "Different in Every Sense" as we are, it's nice the see the one-off stuff.
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Renter
Posted on Friday, January 02, 2004 - 02:25 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Now while on the subject of DIY, does anybody have some detailed photo's of the buell rearset for s1 as pictured below.
Need both shift and brake sides for general impression.

rearset S1

Rgds, renter
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Davefl
Posted on Saturday, February 21, 2004 - 06:24 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

For everyone with Banke shifters. The pivot bearing is the same size as a standard skateboard bearing. God I love it when I can fix something with stuff that has just been lying around.
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