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Crash106
Posted on Tuesday, July 07, 2009 - 01:55 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Hello Everyone,

This is my first post. I'm looking to buy a Buell XB12X or XT but will need to have an electric shifter installed due to muscular dystrophy. I physically can't work that clutch all day.

1. What brand electric shifter do you recommend?
2. Do I also need a slipper clutch to handle downshifts without locking the rear tire or over revving the engine?
3. If they make a slipper clutch for the Thunderstorm engine, what brand do you recommend?

Live well. Love much. Laugh often.
Crash106
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Crash106
Posted on Monday, July 13, 2009 - 01:28 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Okay, well, I ran an advanced Google search of the Buell.com website checking for the phrase "slipper clutch" and found there certainly IS a slipper clutch available factory direct for the X bikes.

HOWEVER, this is a "racing license only" part and costs about $1,000 plus new racing clutch plates, a special tool and new fluids. So, yes and no. There is a part, but it's damned expensive and it's only available for racers (at least for now). I wonder just how bad I need this thing.
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Petebueller
Posted on Tuesday, July 14, 2009 - 09:06 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Hi Crash

I don't know the characteristics of an electric shifter so I don't know how smoothly they disengage.

What I can say is that the tuning on XBs is such that it doesn't have the harsh engine braking normally associated with big V-Twins.

Your experience with the way you have set up earlier bikes would be a good guide to making some sort of prediction on the need for a slipper clutch. Have you needed to install one before for example.
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Jayvee
Posted on Wednesday, August 24, 2011 - 02:12 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

According to several web-sites that sell them, they cost $1190, and one can use the OEM plates. According to the Drag Specialties reference, the same part fits all Buells, tube and XB.
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Mbest
Posted on Thursday, April 19, 2012 - 12:42 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Hi Guys, EBR has the STM slipper clutch for $999.00 to who ever want's it. part# X0036.06AH. For your use, it has different main engagement and back torque limiting spring rates available to better fine tune from a full-on high performance or race application to setup that needs to add a little cushion every time you shift.
If you end up getting one, it takes a special install tool at an extra cost. I have one that I can loan you for the project if it pans out.
safe riding
mike
http://www.erikbuellracing.com/store/parts-accesso ries/powertrain/xb-slipper-clutch.html
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Mbest
Posted on Thursday, April 19, 2012 - 01:03 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Hey Crash,
Another thing you might look into is since most all electric solenoid actuated shifters are pretty "snappy" in their action, hence your inquiring about a slipper clutch, You may try looking into putting a small nitrogen charged "bumper shock" on the linkage so that even thou the solenoid would disengage quickly, it would re-engage slower because the bumper shock would cushion and slow the clutches re-engagement.
You should be able to set it up to "let the clutch out" in say, 1 or 1 1/2 or 2 seconds etc to give you plenty of slip on both taking off from a stop, and safe down shifting if you didn't get the rpm's matched up so good. Might be a better solution than a thousand dollars for a slipper clutch that's not really designed for your needs.
Just a thought.
mike
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