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Rhinorear
Posted on Sunday, November 01, 2009 - 07:37 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Glad to hear that B......Thanks!

I just checked and the battery is now charged but still no pump sound.

Let me ask you would the regulator being bad not allow the pump to prime, you know make a sound or is the lack of a priming sound only a pump issue?

What was your problem and fix?
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5liter
Posted on Sunday, November 01, 2009 - 08:47 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Did you check your relays? Switch the start and ignition relays and see if your pump runs.
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Bosephus
Posted on Sunday, November 01, 2009 - 11:11 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Rhino,
Bad regulator would not stop the pump to prime. Do you have a fuel pressure gauge and if so lets see if you are getting any fuel pressure at all. Sometimes my pump is quiet and other times loud probably due to fuel level in the tank. Like 5liter said try to switch the relays and try to get the pump to prime then we can continue forward...
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Rhinorear
Posted on Monday, November 02, 2009 - 08:15 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

First off I want to thank you 2 for your assistance.

I just came in from the garage and before I started taking off the tail section to get to the relays I thought I would try it 1 more time.

It must have been quieter than normal outside because I did hear the pump prime. So I did it again and it primed a second time. It seems that the priming noise has changed quit dramatically by getting a lot quieter.

Before it seemed that I always could hear it with just standing by the bike. This time I had to put my ear to the tank to hear it. But like you said B it just might be me and the fuel level in tank.

I started it and let it idle for a little while before shutting it off.

Oh by the way I don't have a fuel pressure gauge. Where could I get one and about what price?
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Bosephus
Posted on Monday, November 02, 2009 - 09:30 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Rhino,
I had two issues with my bike.
Intake gaskets leaking when hot leaning me out plus all though new the in-tank fuel filter after running would decrease the fuel flow. I was always pointing my issues to hot engine but once I got the gaskets in good I still stalled but not as bad or frequent. I had called Al at american and he had something similiar happen to a customers bike and they determined the poor design of the intake filter sucking into the fuel pump inlet just enough to decreasing pressure once I removed the filter 2000 miles ago I have not stalled at all !!!

In answer to the pressure gauge bought mine at habour frieght for 15.00 or so cheap but works fine.
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Rhinorear
Posted on Monday, November 02, 2009 - 10:06 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

I'll try removing the filter, or is something that can be replaced?

I have 19,000 miles on the bike. Do you recall how many miles you had on yours when you decided to remove the filter?

What time of year did your stalling occur?

I wonder if going into the winter will have some impact
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Bosephus
Posted on Tuesday, November 03, 2009 - 10:18 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Rhino,
The filter was new first thing I replaced when I bought the bike.

The bike would stall pretty much at any temp above 70 degrees after 10 to 15 minutes of riding. Now I have gone for rides up 3 hours in 90 plus heat no problems. I really do beleive the heat was more of problem with the intake gaskets and time was the filter. Hopefully this makes sense !
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Rhinorear
Posted on Monday, May 31, 2010 - 07:22 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Calling Bosephus -

I finally got a filter and am not able to get it to fit all the way on the end of the fuel pump, like the original.

Is this a concern?

I wonder about allowing the filter to heat up in the sun and putting the pump in the fridge or frezzer and fitting it on that way.

How do you get the filter all the way on or am I being to anal?

I have to get another as I already ruined the new one. Thank goodness they are one of the cheaper parts. Am thinking about ordering a few for years to come.

MAN was the old one dirty!!!!
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Bosephus
Posted on Monday, May 31, 2010 - 10:32 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Rhino,
The filter is designed not only to keep large particles out of the pump but also to wick up as much fuel as possible when running low and to catch any bubbles created from cavitations of the pump. Because of these attributes I did'nt want to remove mine, but until I did, I could watch the pressure drop over a few minutes using a fuel pressure gauge until it was too low keep the bike running ! I would think that as long as the filter is seated to where it would'nt come off the pump you are good. You might since you have things apart try what I am was going to do and place something in the filter so it cant completely collapse on itself.
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Rhinorear
Posted on Monday, May 31, 2010 - 11:04 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Thanks again B!
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