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Triumphant1
Posted on Monday, March 16, 2009 - 02:04 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

just went to get my buell out today, after being put up in heated storage since late october. And after hooking the battery back up, she fired right up. Let it idle for a minute, then put in gear and she stalled. Started right back up again, and same thing, over and over. Since I've owned it it's always been kinda harder to put into gear, or the subtle way buell owners have to find neutral (always find mine) know clutch needed minor adjustment before putting her into storage, but what is it? The standard is up, which is what I first thought. It dies as if the standard were left down. Any ideas??? I'm West Michigan, and everyone knows we have a really short riding season, so any chance I get to ride when the roads are clear, and it's at least 50degrees I want to ride.Help!!!
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Buell_bert
Posted on Monday, March 16, 2009 - 02:37 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Does it start to die when you let out the clutch? If so jumper the 2 kick stand wires together to rule that out. Let us know.
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Triumphant1
Posted on Monday, March 16, 2009 - 02:41 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

it dies as soon as I attempt to put it into gear.
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Sparky
Posted on Monday, March 16, 2009 - 03:14 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

The ignition system needs an electrical ground to function. It gets this ground through the Neutral Switch being in neutral or the Sidestand Switch when the sidestand is up. If both of those conditions are not met, the ignition system open circuits and kills the engine.

Probably your Sidestand Switch has gone bad and cannot complete the ground for the ignition to operate.

Buell_Bert suggested one fix for that switch although, if I may clarify what he wrote, jumper the two wire harness wires together that go to the switch. Keep in mind though that if you do this, the bike will be drivable with the sidestand down, a potentially dangerous situation.

Another option if you want to keep the built-in safety feature is to buy a Sidestand Switch from your dealer.
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Buell_bert
Posted on Monday, March 16, 2009 - 04:40 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Hey Sparky if the kick stand is down (or bad) you can put the bike in gear and it will still run fine but it is only when you start to release the clutch that it starts to die. This is when the small switch by the clutch handle comes into play. At least thats how I think it works. Just my 2 cents worth. Maybe clutch switch.
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Newbuellertoo
Posted on Monday, March 16, 2009 - 05:01 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Actuate the clutch a number of times while idling to "exercise" the clutch plates before putting it in gear. See if it helps after a long storage.
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Sparky
Posted on Monday, March 16, 2009 - 08:38 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Buell_Bert, you are correct regarding the clutch switch and ignition. The clutch switch also plays a part in the starter interlock, but that's not part of this discussion.

The clutch switch works to keep the engine running as long as the clutch lever is pulled in and the trans is in gear (no neutral light) and the sidestand is down (sidestand switch open circuit).

When you release the clutch lever, the clutch switch open circuits and the engine dies because the sidestand switch is open (no ground path for ignition).
- If the sidestand were up and the sidestand switch is good, the bike should run as normal and take off in first gear.
- Since it dies with the sidestand down and in gear, that is normal too. That's how it's supposed to work.
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Buell_bert
Posted on Tuesday, March 17, 2009 - 12:25 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Hey thanks Sparky. So if the kickstand is up or the clutch is pulled in or the bike is in neutral the bike will run. But with the 2 diodes the clutch and neutral are an either/or situation then. And when the bike is going down the road the ignition grounds just thru the kickstand switch. Am I close or still blowin smoke? (Using an M2 2001 diagram and it helped to use 2 pair of glasses instead of 1.)
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Sparky
Posted on Tuesday, March 17, 2009 - 01:53 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

You got it, Buell_bert.

Triumphant, any follow up?
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