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Its_a_buell
Posted on Saturday, March 14, 2009 - 06:11 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

hey Buellers,
here's a question some of you may find ridiculous but I'm interested in adding a 12 volt power outlet (such as those found in automobiles) to my '03 XB9. I'd like to do this to have somewhere to plug up my cell phone charger or gps unit. anyone ever attempted anything like this or have any advice for a test subject? all is appreciated, -Alan
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Sparky
Posted on Saturday, March 14, 2009 - 08:15 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

We've done many such things only more bizarre.

So if you mean a power outlet like a cigarette lighter socket, Buell has an adapter for those bikes that have a stock accessory plug. It is a pair of wires with a cigarette lighter socket on one end and a mate to the accessory plug on the other end. The Ulysses and 1125 bikes have such a plug.

So what one could do is adapt that accessory plug adapter with a SAE 2-wire polarized quick-disconnect connector which mates a Harley Battery Tender battery cable. That way one could plug in a Battery Tender when the bike is parked and, when ridden, plug in the cigarette lighter socket for your accessories.

To go this route, one would have to,
1) buy that Buell accessory adapter to get a wired cigarette lighter socket,
2) cut off the accessory connector,
3) get a Harley Battery Tender battery cable, sold separately, which has ring terminals for the battery on one end of the cable and a SAE connector on the other end,
4) go down to your friendly auto parts store and get a SAE 2-wire extender cable with two connectors on it,
5) cut it in the middle and splice one of those quick-disconnect connectors to the wired cigarette lighter socket.
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Reepicheep
Posted on Sunday, March 15, 2009 - 10:19 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

You can tap into the tail light (not brake light) wire in the tail section of the 9sx and get a 12v switched source. There is one under the flyscreen as well (I think I posted pictures in a GPS install thread on which one...yellow and black maybe?).
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Id073897
Posted on Sunday, March 15, 2009 - 12:05 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

The diagnostic plug provides ground and a 12 volts source.
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Its_a_buell
Posted on Sunday, March 15, 2009 - 02:17 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

excellent advice Buellers. I'm not sure which I want to pursue but I have a couple of questions for each of you. Sparky, I have a battery tender on my bike. essentially what your saying is to modify the "cigarette ligher" to plug into the battery tender attached to the bike...correct? if I'm following you correctly, that would offer a 12 volt power source with a fuse for protection. Reepicheep, you method seems to involve splicing wires and tampering with the electrical system, which isnt a major problem because i'm comfortable workin on my own stuff. this provides power only when the bike is switched on right? ever had any problems with the electrical? finally, Id073897, would I have to remove or tamper with the diagnostic plug with your method or is it just a matter or splicing a compatible connector onto the end of a cigarette lighter? thanks again
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Id073897
Posted on Sunday, March 15, 2009 - 03:29 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

would I have to remove or tamper with the diagnostic plug with your method or is it just a matter or splicing a compatible connector onto the end of a cigarette lighter?

All you need is the Deutsch plug and a power supply socket like this:

http://www.boxxerparts.de/xtcshop/popup_image.php? pID=351&imgID=0
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Reepicheep
Posted on Sunday, March 15, 2009 - 08:01 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Correct, I tapped in there specifically because it was switched. I wanted the GPS to turn off with the ignition...

No problems with either hack...
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Sparky
Posted on Sunday, March 15, 2009 - 09:54 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Its, you follow correctly. The modified cigarette lighter would plug into the vacant Battery Tender plug when you disconnect the Battery Tender from the bike to offer an unswitched fused 12V source. The only caveat is to be sure to observe the correct polarity when modifying the cigarette lighter plug so that the center terminal is actually +12VDC.

I've used the Battery Tender cable on other bikes for not only a Battery Tender but to power a voltage sensing electric vest thermostat that shuts off power to the vest (and sometimes wrap-around grip heaters) when the battery voltage drops below 12V.
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Petebueller
Posted on Monday, March 16, 2009 - 07:27 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Hi Its_a_buell. I fitted mine to the side of the relay box on my Firebolt and I think it looks like it was made there. (Maybe just me thinks that). It is direct to the battery with an inline fuse. I can use it to charge stuff, and I can also plug a trickle charger.

It is a $5 part and so far perfectly weatherproof. 1 year and 25,000 km in all weather.






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Its_a_buell
Posted on Monday, March 16, 2009 - 04:54 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Excellent advice from all of you. thanks
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