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Rogue_biker
Posted on Sunday, January 04, 2009 - 12:24 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Hi All. I have a 2006 XB12R Firebolt with 20,500 miles on it. About a month ago my fuel pump started to run continuously and my dealer told me I need a new fuel pump. They quoted me a whopping $900 to do the job, explaining to me that the engine needed to be lowered, swing arm moved back, in order to get to the fuel pump. I called BS and got my bike back. As I suspected, the Service manual only recommends removing the swing arm. But even then, the labor charges would be around $700 if done by another reputable dealer.

So I did a thorough search in BWB and was thankful to find several subjects about fuel pump failures due to chaffed wires causing shorts, etc. It appears that a few members had success removing their fuel pumps without removing the rear swing arm. However, these were on Ulysses bikes. I have a Firebolt, which has a lower suspension.

My question is, is it possible to remove an XB12R Firebolt's fuel pump simply by disconnecting the rear shock and letting the swingarm drop lower? Or will this only work on Ulysses, which has taller suspension?

Thanks in advance to all.

PS: why doesn't Buell have a recall on this? It seems to me it is a common problem.
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Id073897
Posted on Sunday, January 04, 2009 - 02:14 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

I heard first about this way before the Ulysses was built, so I assume, this would work with every XB.

If some wires are chaffed inside the pump, try part# P00194.02A8 (taken from 04 XBR parts manual) first, this is the wire harness only. Section 4 of the service manual describes how to replace it.

Regards,
Gunter
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Rogue_biker
Posted on Sunday, January 04, 2009 - 02:47 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Thank you Gunter.

Me and my friend are thinking about simply re-wrapping parts of the wires that are chaffed and might chaffe and maybe use a zip tie to secure it out of the sharp edge fuel pump itself. This way, there should be no need to replace the harness.

But then again, it may be a good idea to go ahead and order the wiring harness just in case the wires are too badly chaffed.
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Id073897
Posted on Sunday, January 04, 2009 - 03:28 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Oops. There's a typing error. Correct number should be P0194.02A8.
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Bombardier
Posted on Sunday, January 04, 2009 - 11:03 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Not sure if zip ties are able to withstand petrol over a period of time.

Plastic/rubber that is not nitrile tends to degrade and so you may well be back to square one after a time.
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