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Davidoforlando
Posted on Monday, July 21, 2008 - 10:24 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

I want to add (2) additional 55 watt "driving lights" to the front of my '08 Firebolt. Will the additional 110 watts be to much for the charging system?
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Reepicheep
Posted on Monday, July 21, 2008 - 10:29 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Thats a lot. Could you go with HIDS? Better light, less power.

Are you running (or planning to run) any heated gear?
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Davidoforlando
Posted on Monday, July 21, 2008 - 10:57 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

I will not be adding any additional accessories. just the lighting... seems I am invisible to cars
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Midknyte
Posted on Tuesday, July 22, 2008 - 09:49 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

HID + Running Light / Turn signals is the route I went...
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Reepicheep
Posted on Tuesday, July 22, 2008 - 11:55 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

55 watt driving lights may make your turn signals even *more* invisible to cars.
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Bombardier
Posted on Tuesday, July 22, 2008 - 08:23 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

+1 on the HID.

I have them and they work great!
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Davidoforlando
Posted on Tuesday, July 22, 2008 - 09:59 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

I appreciate the comments, but I really wanted to know if the charging system would keep the battery charged with the addition of the driving lights, I am not considering changing the lighting to HID at this time.
The repair manual sez...
Total Current Draw Test
If battery runs down during use, the current draw of the motorcycle components and accessories may exceed output of the charging system.
1. To check for this condition, place load tester induction pickup or current probe pickup over battery
negative cable.
2. Disconnect stator wiring from voltage regulator wiring at
the connector under front sprocket cover. Start the motorcycle and run the engine at 3000 RPM.
3. With ignition and all continuously running lights and accessories turned on (headlight on high beam), read the total current draw.
4. Compare this reading to the reading obtained after performing
the CURRENT AND VOLTAGE OUTPUT TEST.
a. The current output should exceed current draw by 3.5 amps minimum.
b. If output does not meet specifications, there may be too many accessories for the charging system to handle.
5. Reconnect regulator after testing.
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Davidoforlando
Posted on Tuesday, July 22, 2008 - 10:02 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Was the HID lighting an easy retrofit?
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Bombardier
Posted on Tuesday, July 22, 2008 - 10:55 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Simple.

Check out the Knowledge Vault for the blow by blow install.
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Davidoforlando
Posted on Tuesday, July 22, 2008 - 11:07 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Thanks bomber..
http://www.ifmracing.com/modules.php?name=Forums&f ile=viewtopic&t=148
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Midknyte
Posted on Wednesday, July 23, 2008 - 01:27 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

HID uses less power... As would LED running lights too...

More light(s) w/ less power
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Davidoforlando
Posted on Wednesday, July 23, 2008 - 09:33 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Thanks everybody. great info! As a side note I bought a second high beam head lighting housing and I am going to replace the low beam with the high beam... that way I can have just one high beam when riding with friends and both highs when i'm out on my own.
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Spops
Posted on Friday, July 25, 2008 - 09:01 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

PIAA just released their Cross Country HID Driving Lights, they draw minimal wattage plus the ballast and ignitor components are built inside their casing. A bit pricey, but may be the right option for ya...

http://www.cyclegadgets.com/Products/product.asp?I tem=PIA-CC

Another option: One that I use; MotoLights:

I like these since I can mount them lower and thus gives me that "triangle" of light which causes cagers to pause before pulling out in front of me. I personally run them with Amber bulbs. As far as wattage, each are 50, but with my Lighting, output was around 540 total. With heated gear, plus MotoLights, I simply altered my "start up" sequence. Lights on, heated gear off, then once bike was a little warmed up, I could turn on heated gear.. No issues in two year-round riding seasons!

http://www.cyclegadgets.com/Products/Motolight/

I used the Slider Mount option for both my bikes; XB9S(T) and XB12XT. Slider Circumference should be 6.75 in. (Measure twice, cut once)

My dos centavos.. Hope it helps..
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Metalstorm
Posted on Friday, July 25, 2008 - 04:35 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

I'm running MotoLights with the standard 35 watt bulbs. They surprised me at how well they light up the road and they're not too bright to blind oncoming cagers.

Though a buddy of mine hates riding in front of me at night. Something about the light hitting his mirror just right at full lean : D

With the MotoLights on, the difference between my low beam and high beam is so small that I usually just have the low beam on.



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Rah7777777
Posted on Sunday, July 27, 2008 - 10:23 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Man Tom, your blinding people at both ends!!!

Between your XB Lights brake light and your triple headlight system!! man, no wonder your buddy doesnt want to ride ahead of you

I say good job!!! keep it safe!

-Robert
www.xblights.com
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Metalstorm
Posted on Sunday, July 27, 2008 - 12:58 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

I'm pretty sure the MotoLights have saved me from being t-boned a couple of times.
The cagers can actually see me coming during the day time.

I KNOW your tail light has saved my ass (literally) more than once. : D
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Rah7777777
Posted on Sunday, July 27, 2008 - 07:13 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

HAHA!!! i'm glad to help save any ass I can

Have any pics with the headlights on?
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Metalstorm
Posted on Sunday, July 27, 2008 - 11:22 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

I only have this one. I need to take one in the bright daylight because it seems that that is when cagers have the hardest time seeing us.
The lights are little but the light is big for 70 watts (35 watts each) : )





and one of the derrier for vanity's sake : D



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Phwx2
Posted on Saturday, August 23, 2008 - 07:01 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

I was thinking of mounting the lights up on the bars where the stock mirrors mount, just to get a higher profile of light. I use am LED helmet break light that works very well at night but is worthless in the day. I've been told that the helmet light attracts attention because head movement.
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Metalstorm
Posted on Sunday, August 24, 2008 - 12:00 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

At one time I thought of mounting lights on my handguards but I decided not to.

There's a height limit on headlights in CA. I can't remember the the maximum height allowed. The outside light on the guards would be pretty darn high when leaned over.

I decide to NOT give the authorities an excuse to pull me over.
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