| Author | Message | ||
     Tripp |
with erik's first bike the rw750, the rw stands for road warrior. does anybody know what the other model designators stand for if anything? ie. rs, rss, s1, s2, s3, s3t, m2, x1, xb, p3, xbx | ||
| Spike |
I know XB relates to the frame. It's either X-Blade or X-Brace, I can't remember which. If you look down at the top of the frame with the airbox removed you can clearly see an X with the top of the rear shock mounted in the center of the X. I've always been curious what the others stand for. If anyone knows we should probably save them somewhere on badweb. It would be cool to combine that with other information like sales totals for each model/year. | ||
| Robr |
I have an issue of Cycle World that calls the frame the X-Blame. | ||
| Spiderman |
rs, rss, s1, s2, s3, s3t, m2, x1, xb, p3, xbx Ok here goes RS = Road Sport RSS = Road Sport Single S1, S2 I am not sure. S3 cause it was a combo of the S1 frame and S2 body style (that is kinda what I gto from Battle2win. M2 Dunno X1 cause it was a more Xtreme S1 P3 cause it was the first Buell to not be named after a airplane so it was the only way Erik could sneek in a airplane name. (I don't know but it sounds good) XB for X Blade cause of the way the frame looks when looking down on it. } | ||
| Tripp |
well, that's most of them, nice job spidey! | ||
| Buellin_ri |
P3, Maybe Eric flew them in the Navy.  | ||
| Oldog |
Spidey: The S3, M2 and X1 share swing arms, some other Chassis components, in the case of the S3 and the S3T the motors may be the same as the X1 I know that they are fuel injected, the M2 Same swing arm Can any of our S3 owners tell us if the S3 has a removable side plate ala the X1 how about the M2? this would be 99 - 02 | ||
| Bluzm2 |
The M2's do not have removable side plates, neither do the S3's. | ||
| Dave |
Oldog: S3's and X1's shared the same engine. The FI didn't appear till '99 so earlier S3s had a carb DAve | ||
| Dave |
...and isn't the VRod a P4? DAve | ||
| Court |
The P3 has nothing to do with aircraft. Wait. . . that's it. . . Erik in a P3, Willie G in a P4. . . there......at 11:00 high. . . as the sun rises over the Alutien Islands. "You chromed what?????" Rat-a-tat-a-tat-tat-tat. . . . . . Eeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee....SPLASH. Now...maybe we can get something done around here.  | ||
| Charlieboy6649 |
Hmmm. Don't know if much dog fighting is going to be done on either part given those aircraft! P-3 = Electronic surveilance/sub hunter P-4 = Equivalent of an oversize WWII era PBY ...but I'll use my imagination! LOL! | ||
| Oldog |
"You chromed what?????"  Bwhahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahaha  Dave I thought that the S3 was the "updated S2" and that took place in 99  (Message edited by oldog on November 27, 2005) | ||
| Court |
The S-2 and S-3 had very little in common. | ||
| 1313 |
Hmmm...There have been times where my mind has tricked me into thinking that my P4 (V-Rod) has an aircraft radial engine in it... Oldog, S3 came out in '97. Looks akin to the S2 but, as Court states, they had very little in common. 1313 | ||
| Oldog |
thanx 1313 interesting fact: I almost got an s3 sold before i had the coin set up for the x1, | ||
| Bomber |
Everyone knows that the M2 was named after that most excellent of projectile throwers, every grunts best buddy, the Ma Deuece 50 cal machine gun don't they? | ||
| Blake |
I think Court said "get to work"! The man is up at 4am every morning scheming to take over the world (that's my theory anyway). Best we listen to him. Frankly, I think his lovely wife is going to beat him to it. | ||
| Tripp |
i like that theory bomber! | ||
| S1wmike |
WHAT ARE THE DIFFERENCES,WHICH BIKE IS A BETTER PURCHASE AND WHAT SHOULD I LOOK FOR TO STAY AWAY FROM ONE. | ||
| Mikej |
1st: please stop yelling and turn the caps-lock off. 2nd: Blond, brunette, or redhead? No matter which you choose someone will says that's the best choice and someone will say that's the worst choice, some will detail all the problems they've had with their particular choice, and someone else who made the same choice will state that their's has never had any of those issues. 3rd: define your needs, define your goals, define your wants, define your budget, define what you can live with, define what you can't live with, then back into the answer of which would be the better purchase for you. The subject is far to vast and far to involved to detail in depth without you first narrowing down the focus a bit. With all that said, looking only at your chosen screen name, I'd suggest an S1W.  And if you happen to be in the market for an M2 (bike, not firearm) there are several decent ones to choose from, one might even be sitting in my garage at this very moment (at least it was when I wheeled the S2 out of the garage this morning for my ride to work). M2 issues: sidestand switch, speedo sensor, rocker cover gaskets, primary chain tensioner plate, all of which are easily cured for the most part. There are other considerations, but those seem to top the list if you don't throw in the oil pump gear issue. S2 issues: uh, see above but scratch the speedo sensor and add in a seasonal speedo cable lubing. Other models of tubers? I don't know first hand since I don't or haven't owned one first hand. YMMV, tax and license may vary, all advice should be taken with a grain of salt or two, butter on popcorn makes hands greasy but then so does working on a bike. They're all good, they're all just different, find one that works for you and go from there. | ||
| S1wmike |
sorry old habit hard to break. no I was asking about between the s2 and s3 thunderbolts. I am a new owner of a s1w but was thinking about adding to my collection of bikes and would like to now the major differences and typical if any problems. | ||
| Mikej |
S2 models were carb'd unless converted by an owner along the way. Early S3 models were carb'd, later ones were fuel injected. S2 models have removable sideplates making it much easier to service the rear isolators and doing belt changes. S2 model seats feel more cut into the frame where S3 seats feel more like they're sitting up on top of the frame, S2 feels set farther back, S2 footpeg locations feel higher. For S2 models look closely at the handlebars, the T models had a recall, I had a standard non-T model handlebar break at the weld on mine. S2 models have the "Harley" 1" diameter handlebars and associated controls, S3 models have the 7/8" diameter handlebars and Buell controls. S2 models typically have a heavier flywheel, not sure about S3 flywheels. You can get a Corbin seat with a passenger backrest for the S3, you can get a Corbin seat for an S2 but not with a passenger backrest due apparently to Corbin's not wanting to do something different because of the S2 seat lock location. An S3 fairing mounts to horizontal tubes welded to the steering headtube, an S2 fairing "plugs" into longinal tubes sticking foreward from the frameset, an S3 fairing mount will bolt right onto an M2 frame where an S2 fairing mount will not. S2 models have a steel swingarm (an early one was the subject of a recall I believe), some early S3 models have a steel swingarm and later ones have the aluminum one. It takes a bit of work to retrofit a later aluminum swingarm to fit onto an S2. There are mounting kits to convert an S2 into an S2T, likewise there are kits to convert an S3 into an S3T, also there are kits to utilize S3 hardside saddlebags on an S2T (or converted S2 with a saddlebag mounting kit). (I seem to have hit some magic key on my keyboard here so that i now overtype instead of insert-type characters which is really messing with my head so this will have to suffice for now until I can reboot this thing) Hope this helps some, and someone will be along shortly to correct anything I'm wrong on hopefully. Probably the best thing you could do would be to find both an S2 and an S3 to sit on to really feel the felt differences between them. Totally different feel between them which is reallyhard to explain in text.\ take care, mike. | ||
| Mikej |
ps, click my profile and look carefully at the naked pic I downloaded showing some of what I was talking about above. (hmmm, the magic key has somehow now apparently unclicked itself, really messing with my head now, I may just reboot this thing anyway....)  And, no, this isn't a "pull my finger" joke about the naked pic in my profile.  | ||
| S1wmike |
thanks | ||
| Bluzm2 |
Mike, That's a GREAT shot! Do you have a full res version? I'd love to have it as wallpaper. Brad PS How the heck you been? Haven't chatted in a LONG while. You going to homecoming this year? | ||
| Mikej |
Got the pic off the site here (or googled picked it someplace), probably a Dave Gess photo, never have seen a note as to who took it that I can recall. I'll be down in southernmost Texas during homecoming, planned the trip thinking homecoming would be in June, already had tickets purchased before it was announced that Homecoming would be in July. = = = = = = = = Side note/thread hijack: any idea what Buell M2 engines are going for these days? Got my engine sort of posted. = = = = = = = = Okay, back to the regularly scheduled programming, from up above the airshow dogfighting speculation. Which somehow now has me picturing Erik flying a Sopwith with a broadsword hanging out the cockpit in his hand.....  | ||
| Mikej |
Brad, Look at the 1994 Magazine that Ferris/Jerry posted up for sale in the Matt auction, shows what looks like the same naked S2 pic in it. That would be a neat magazine copy to have. | ||
| Bluzm2 |
My thoughts exactly Mike!!! | ||
| Keylime |
Can the primary chain be adjusted/changed on an S3 without pulling the engine? That's what I'd been told... |
