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Blake
Posted on Saturday, May 03, 2003 - 06:28 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Mick,

Make sure your oil level is below the full mark after the engine is hot. For some reason, over-filling greatly increases the amount of oil mist that exhausts out the crankcase breather. Running a good quality synthetic also can help to significantly cut down on the amount of oil mist exiting via breather.
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Loki
Posted on Saturday, May 03, 2003 - 09:56 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Knickers,

Go with the rear sets. I had the Banke stuff on my M2 and now have the Pro-Series on my S1. My 6'1+ body finds it much more comfortable.

If you don't find the clip-on bars to your taste. Try slightly different round bar. I would need to go back and research the numbers I had used but.... I took about third of the rise out, about a quarter of the pull back and widened them about two inches. The ergos fit my shoulder width and were easier on my wrists.

Loki
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Cyclonemick
Posted on Monday, May 05, 2003 - 01:17 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

I took my cover off this weekend and found that the rubber elbow connected to my front breather bolt was kind of jammed on there wich did not seal properly i removed it and changed the piece around so the better end of the line (elbow) fit on the breather bolt. After a little bit of cleaning I re-installed the cover. After a 100 mile trip there was no more oil leakage For now anyway? Blake, I just changed my oil and bought the fairly new screaming eagle synthetic oil and the extra long Dyna series filter holds 1/2 qt more. Although now my oil can is almost completely full (holding 3full qt's) I believe the elbow was the main issue but I have heard that filling it up to much can cause it to spit. What do you know about the Screaming Eagle synthetic, Compared to other synthetics. I paid 8.25 a quart but I really don't know what other synthetics run so I just blindly put my faith in my local harley dealer.
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Hans
Posted on Monday, May 05, 2003 - 05:32 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

"Although now my oil can is almost completely full (holding 3full qt's)"

Cyclonemick, what do you mean by that ???
Almost till the upper mark on the dipstick immediately AFTER some riding? I may hope so.
I fill her up till not more than just the lower mark on the dipstick to prevent oil spewing from the oil tank vent (measured immediately after shutting the engine down) with about two quarts and the original filter.
Hans
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Reepicheep
Posted on Monday, May 05, 2003 - 09:11 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

I have the same approach as Hans. If I fill it fuller, it promptly sprays it out my breathers (and ultimately my right knee) over the next week or so until it is right back where I should have put it in the first place (just over the bottom line).

I did switch to the big ford filter (FL1A I think) to get higher capacity and a better selection of available filters. It works well, but make sure it is strapped down or it will spin off.
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Blake
Posted on Monday, May 05, 2003 - 01:36 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Mick,

"...the extra long Dyna series filter holds 1/2 qt more."
That is extremely inaccurate information. Half a quart is 16 onces (one pint, almost half a liter). You might be surprised to learn that the long filter holds in its entirety less than half a quart. It might hold an additional 6 onces compared to the shorter version filter. Maybe someone hear knows the exact figure?

As Hans and Reep have already advised (thanks guys!), if you put 3 full quarts into your engine, it will blow lots of oil out the breather. Don't do it.
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Cyclonemick
Posted on Tuesday, May 06, 2003 - 12:19 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

I was going on (extra half quart) by what my local buell tech was telling me so I took his advice,but I can see what you are saying. When I changed my oil with the new filter (longer) I put almost 3qts in. I went out for a ride to get up to normal temp and checked it and according to the dipstick It was close to the top of the stick,real close! I rode around 100 miles fairly aggresive at times today(Tuesday) and when I stopped It still Seem to be leak free. Maybe next change I will leave a little extra room, but untill then I guess I will have to hope for the best.
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Jdbuellx1
Posted on Wednesday, May 07, 2003 - 12:24 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

If I'm not mistaken the longer Dyna filter holds about 4 oz. more than stock. At least thats all the more I add and my oil level is fine.

Now for my question,
I have a Forcewinder XR2 on my '99 X1, in the instructions it says to remove the throttle body support plate that it is not needed, I have recently noticed that my throttle body is falling downward and causing an intake leak. Has anyone else had this problem? I am ordering a new support plate (sold mine), new gaskets and seal ring, would it be necessary to replace the gaskets at the head also?
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Jdbuellx1
Posted on Friday, May 09, 2003 - 12:47 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Gee, look at all those responses to my question! The knowledge vault is so helpful (sigh).
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Tim
Posted on Friday, May 09, 2003 - 06:52 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

JD, Sorry, I can't help you. The new message search function was down for quite a while. It's fixed now. Maybe someone will respond tonight.
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Blake
Posted on Saturday, May 10, 2003 - 12:35 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

JD,

Unless they have been compromised, there is no reason to replace the seals at the heads. Check 'em, if they are okay, leave 'em.
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Aesquire
Posted on Saturday, May 10, 2003 - 12:55 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Dropped by the dealer today, the new Kuryakyn (hypercharger) catalog was out. They will soon (june) have a dual K&N filter rig that looks like a klingon weapon!?! I am not a Hypercharger fan (taste is taste) but this looked coool, and may offer good knee clearance for those that hate the breadbox & don't like the Forcewinder.
They also had LED equipped shifter rod covers, so if you know a guy with a Road King that doesn't have enough lights.....
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Ara
Posted on Monday, May 12, 2003 - 10:37 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Aesquire, That dual filter Kuryakyn thing you mentioned, is that what they call "The Intimidator?" If so, I think it's more than a dual filter set up. I think it's a dual carb with common plenum. More expensive than a Klingon disruptor, too.
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Aesquire
Posted on Monday, May 12, 2003 - 03:00 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Ara, I don't think it's on the website yet. The "Intimidator" dual carb rig, well, might be ok, but looks like a pain to tune.
The NEW thingee looks like a Stargate SG-1
"zap gun" or Klingon disrupter. It's on the cover of the new catalog.
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Ara
Posted on Monday, May 12, 2003 - 03:28 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Thanks, Aesquire. I'll keep sensors at maximum.
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Stubby
Posted on Tuesday, May 20, 2003 - 08:12 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Guys. I'm looking for a performance increase with little $$$ expended (isn't everyone?). I do not wish to change the outside appearance of the M/C. Will taking the snorkel off the innnards of the airbox and installing a K&N filter be the ticket, or should I just pony up for the "ham can" looking carbon fibre setup the dealer keeps trying to sell me. (Dang, but I do not trust the dealer... they always screw up my bike in one way or other).

Yours in buelling.

Stubb.

buell1pilot2002@wmconnect.com
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Reepicheep
Posted on Tuesday, May 20, 2003 - 09:13 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Stubb.... by far your best bang for the buck performance wise is a rejet. Your main is probably fine if not rich, but the low speed jet and the air mixture screw are looking for help. See the knowledge vault. You can do the whole thing for less then $5 (just get one new 45 low speed jet). I would not go drilling holes in the slide, but do drill out the plug for the air mixture screw and adjust that as listed. Its the best bang you will ever get for your $5.

After that, I would probably do the Supertrapp. Its $300, but it is a beautifully built and engineered piece of equipment. The forcewinder is more cosmetic (both sound and look) then performance, but I like mine.

A dyno tune with an air fuel guage will also get you a lot of bang for the buck if you can find a good tuner, but I would probably pony up for the exhaust and intake I want first, then pay 'da man for a dyno tune to match those new parts.
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Ara
Posted on Tuesday, May 20, 2003 - 09:34 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Stubby, if you opt to gut the airbox you will have to re-engineer your breather system. That will take some planning as it's not just a matter of removing parts. Think it through and avail yourself of the wisdom of those who have documented their breather solutions in the KV.
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Steveford
Posted on Monday, June 30, 2003 - 09:14 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

I'm chucking the ugly plastic bits on my 02 X1W and would like to go with Buell's Pro Series air filter w/ carbon cover.
I think that someone said that the S3/S3T piece would be the way to go as it popped right on while the X1 Files says to get the S1 filter and drill it to accept the air temperature sensor.
Could someone make a recommendation? The fellows at Buell were rather vague in their recommendations.
Thanks
Steve Ford
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Steveford
Posted on Monday, June 30, 2003 - 09:20 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

While I'm at it, does anyone have any experience with the Yodude intake for the 02 X1W? I think that my knee might be up against the Buell race intake.
Thanks again,
Steve Ford
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Cowtown
Posted on Tuesday, July 01, 2003 - 02:51 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Steve,
The Yodude does not use the existing 1/4" or 5mm screws. They use 1/8" bolts and lock nuts that fit through the holes in the throttle body. It's very light weight and if your bike was to fall over it won't damage your throttle body, intake manifold or heads like the Forcewinder might. If your interested in a much cheaper approach, take a look at this photo and drop me an email.
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Jugger
Posted on Thursday, July 10, 2003 - 09:25 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

The following pics show my new Forcewinder intake installation using my existing Hypercharger adapter with breather inlet. Has anyone else tried this and are there any known performance problems with the Hypercharger adapter in place.
Thanks Jugger
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Jugger
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