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Henrik
Posted on Wednesday, May 21, 2003 - 11:30 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Thanks Rick; I did think of that, but didn't have time to accurately measure out, and the bolt/nut will hold for now. The spring is a bit tight in that position when the kickstand is down. Good tension when it's up.

I will either find an appropriate spring or notch the bracket.

Henrik
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Kinger
Posted on Thursday, June 05, 2003 - 12:15 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Has anyone one been able to compare the two different styles of seats for the S3? What I mean is the difference between a '98 seat and the '99 and up seat. I know that the newer seat wraps around the tank. I think I read somewhere that this offered better support on longer rides.

I am about ready to buy a Corbin for my bike. I have a lead on a 98 style seat, but am wondering if the newer version is more comfortable by design (more leg support). I would like to save the money and get the older seat but if the new one is better........

Thanks.
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Caveman
Posted on Thursday, June 05, 2003 - 02:58 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Kinger,
I have ridden both, the older style on a 97 S3, and the 99 seat on my 98 S3. Just a personal preference, but I like the 99 seat better, more comfy in the crotch, and more support for my legs. Haven't ever ridden a Corbin seat, although I have considered a Gunfighter and a Lady seat just for the wife's comfort, but cannot justify the price right now.
YMMV
jim
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Dave
Posted on Thursday, June 05, 2003 - 05:57 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

The 99 and up seat is superior to the 97/98 S3 seat. I understand that the newer seat is an easy upgrade using existing hardware. (I don't know for fact)

DAve
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Aesquire
Posted on Friday, June 06, 2003 - 12:44 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

I'm running the "Buell custom" saddle (colored piping) on my '01 M2L. Very comfortable, easy to burn off a tank of gas in one sitting. Passenger padding is thicker too, without the slide off the tail shape of the stocker. (like the Corbin gunfighter & lady) $249 retail

I have heard unhappy stories of Corbin customer service, both here & from the local H-D dealer. Corbin does have the option of a backrest, & runs $349 + $199 for backrest. (at American Sport Bike )

It gets down to what fits your butt.
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Henrik
Posted on Friday, June 06, 2003 - 10:13 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

The '99 S3 seat slips right onto '98 models without modifications. Big improvement - even better with a Propad installed.

Henrik
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Stubby
Posted on Saturday, June 07, 2003 - 08:17 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Looking to put some rearsets on my '02 M2, anybody have any recommendations? The Banke Performance parts look good, suggestions? Like all other times in life, money is sorta tight right now.

Stubby.
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Loki
Posted on Sunday, June 08, 2003 - 02:40 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Stubby,

Go with the BANKE stuff! A bit spendy to go with the complete package, but..... I had the rear-sets, shifter and brake on my '00 M2 and loved it. Blake can vouch for the se-up also.

Loki
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Blake
Posted on Sunday, June 08, 2003 - 03:08 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

The Banke parts have served me very well.
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Djshoser
Posted on Monday, June 09, 2003 - 05:50 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

I just bought a 2000 X1 Lightning, and am trying to figure out a more comfortable seat than stock. (It gets kind of uncomfortable on the package after about 1/2 hour of riding.) I was thinking about the accessory Buell seat at $240, or maybe the corbin. Has anybody here used either of these and found them more comfortable? Firemanjim said he bought a gel pad for his seat, and likes it.

There was an ad on this forum for a Corbin seat for sale. Are they any bit more comfortable than stock?

If anyone has some feedback on any options, please feel free to email me.


So far I love the Buell, glad to be part of this forum too!

Thanks,

djshoser
Dave
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Blake
Posted on Monday, June 09, 2003 - 11:36 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

The consensus seems to be that Corbin seats work well for the lean and mean crowd where the Buell seat works well all around. I don't have any experience with either. :/
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Not_purple_s2
Posted on Tuesday, June 10, 2003 - 02:50 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

I'm thinking of getting some parts made at the local machine shop for my S2. I want to get my foot and toe pegs and shifter linkage cut from aluminum. I was thinking that while I'm at it I might get rear set controls made too. Can anyone take some pictures of their rear set controls (brake and shifter) and post them? I'd like to get an idea of how the Banke's are set up.
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Josh_
Posted on Tuesday, June 10, 2003 - 02:55 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Anyone with American Sport Bike rearsets: where does the rear brake reservoir go?
Thanks
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Kahuna
Posted on Thursday, June 12, 2003 - 11:25 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

pinging jayb, or anyone that knows. what kind of rearsets are these?

cheers!

rearsets

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Josh_
Posted on Thursday, June 12, 2003 - 11:32 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

American Sport Bike's, like the ones I was asking about.

Got a pic of the other side so I can see the reservoir?
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Kahuna
Posted on Thursday, June 12, 2003 - 12:34 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

josh, from the pictures page:

jayb's bike
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Loki
Posted on Friday, June 13, 2003 - 12:35 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Those look more like the Pro-Series than the the ones from American Sport Bike.
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Kevinfromwebb
Posted on Sunday, June 15, 2003 - 09:44 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Hey, I'm new here but I've got a bike fitting question. I'm wanting to get another bike to use as a daily driver and some weekend cruising. So my main use will be some highway and some city driving.
I've sat on the XB9S and really liked the way it felt comfort wise but without a some kind of windscreen I don't think I can go that way. The XB9R really stretched me out too much. I've seen the s model foot pegs and American Sport Bike has the 'tree riser'?, that's supposed to bring it up about an inch and back about an inch and a half. Has anybody tried these, how did they work??? And can you put another set of bars on that would bring the grips and riding position back without fouling the windscreen, etc...Any other options??? I'm getting a bit older and with my build that stretched out position just doesn't work... I do like a little bit of a forward lean but not too much... Thanks, Kevin
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Blake
Posted on Sunday, June 15, 2003 - 02:58 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Kevin,
If American Sport Bike sells it, you can bet it is a very good product. They stand behind everything that they sell. Moving the bars even further aft would not cause interference, but raising them further than the American Sport Bike tree riser allows may cause a problem or maybe not; it would depend on the specific handlebar geometry involved. If you like the way the XB9S feels comfort wise, you should take on for a ride.

My buddy Keith has just mounted up a new handlebar on his XB9S to give him a bit more forward lean. His new bars have no rise, just pull back, kinda like a drag bar kind of configuration but with angled ends. Hopefully he'll post his review and comments of the new bars in his ongoing riders log. Keith is right at 6' tall and like you wanted more forward lean.

As for the lack of a windshield... get yourself a good full face helmet, one with a rear spoiler to eliminate lift, and you will be astounded at how comfortable the naked bike can be at speed. Anything under 80 mph is very comfortable. The difference in comfort between my old Shoei RF700 (no spoiler) and my new Shoei Z-II is astounding. Just the tiniest of a little flip up at the rear edge of the helmet makes ALL the difference. I think most new top brand helmets now include the same type of spoiler to eliminate the strangling and neck wrenching helmet lift at speed.

Have you taken one out for a test ride yet?
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Lgpch
Posted on Sunday, June 15, 2003 - 04:50 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Not purple S2

I saw your post about custom made rearsets. I have an M2 (2000). I cut the passenger pegs off and grinded down the remaining metal and then painted the bike.

A year later I ended up with a girlfreind that wanted to ride (she is still with me and still riding).

I ended up going with Banke rearsets that work great. As for the passenger pegs I had a one off set of custom pegs that bolt onto the Banke rearsets. This rearset and passenger peg system was made for me through American Sportbike. I polished them (not mirror like, just smooth), and had them anodized black. They are one of a kind and I can have the passenger pegs off the bike in five minutes.

If you want to see a picture of the set-up go to American Sport Bike's web page and the bike may be there. If it is not just call Tat at American Sport Bike and tell him about this post. My name is Paul and I am a lifeguard here in Southern CA. Tat will know exactly what you are talking about. He did take pictures of the peg system I have and maybe he can down load em to you if they aren't on his web site yet.
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Kevinfromwebb
Posted on Monday, June 16, 2003 - 05:51 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Blake, thanks for your help... I haven't test ridden either one yet, just sat on'em for a while at the last bike show. Good to know American Sport Bike is a good place to deal with. Thanks for that tip about the helmet, I haven't ridden much the last 2 or 3 years and my older helmet doesn't have that flip. Most of my street riding time has been on my old suzuki and I put a windshield on it very shortly after I got it but that's a cruiser position, compeletely different than either Buell. I've been riding bicycles the last couple of years and I've gotten used to the slightly forward riding position, a lot like riding dirt bikes. I'm real curious to see what changes Buell makes or doesn't on the new year bikes. I'll probably go test ride some the next month or two but I'm thinking I'll probably still lean towards some kind of bike with a windscreen. Going back and forth to work, you're going to run into some rain and gravel and sand trucks and yall all know how that feels...
Thanks again for your help, Kevin
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Hondaamer
Posted on Tuesday, June 17, 2003 - 04:12 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Hey guys, american sport bikes has a new riser for the xb9r. It raises the bars up 1 inch and back 1.5 inches. I'm not sure if this is enough for a long ride. I put on 322 miles last month on a saturday, and my back and wrists were killing me. What do you think?
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H_man
Posted on Wednesday, June 18, 2003 - 10:17 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Hey all!

This has to do with handlebars for a 2000 M2. If the answer to this is already in previous posts, then I missed it in my search. Please bear w/ me.

I want to raise the handle bars on my M2. Just an inch and one-half should do. Does anyone know whether the S3T handle bars will fit? Would they interfere with the dash (I have the tach and speedo dash)?

I'm open to any suggestion for raising the stock bar. I'm not married to the idea of using the S3T handlebar.

Loki, if you're out there, WRITE ME!! Really though, that place you used for your custom bar, and took a year and a day to send the bar, (customhandlebars.com) seems to have shut down. I can't reach it's web site.

H-man
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Mikej
Posted on Wednesday, June 18, 2003 - 10:46 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

The S3T handlebars should work just fine as many/several people on the site here have done that to their M2s. You may have to wiggle-out some control and wire slack though. I don't recall reading that that has been in issue though, so they may just bolt right on and away you go.
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Loki
Posted on Wednesday, June 18, 2003 - 12:43 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

H,

I hear ya brother. Sorry about hiding out, things are getting mobile once again. Do not know for sure what will come about here in the next couple weeks.

As for your stock bar:

HT: 4 inches(vertical rise)
W: 28 inches
P(ull)B(ack):6.5 inches(set back at the bar ends)
C(enter):5 inches
clamping area is: 3.5 to 4.75 inches

As for the S3T bar, it will look ungainly on the M2. Look at FLANDERS for off the shelf bars. Stick with a smaller increment in ht change. A one inch change does not sound radical, yet it can be.

If worried about clearance issues around the cluster. Look for a bar with a 5.5 to 6 inch center. Be aware that the overall width must increase the same amount at a minimum. At the same time look at your current wrist angles. This is the time to make a change there also. A little less pull back will straighten them out.

So if my hunch is correct, you might be looking for a set with these numbers:

HT: 5
W: 32(extra here does not matter, trim to fit)
PB: 5.75 to 6
C: 6

I will do some lookig for you and get back

LOKI
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H_man
Posted on Wednesday, June 18, 2003 - 12:55 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Hey, you guys rock!

Thanks for the quick come back.

MikeJ, don't forget to give us a little lead notice next time you're gonna be in the Detroit area. We can get together for a brew. If it's a Tuesday night, I'll bring you on in to the local BRAG meeting.

On the move again, eh Bri? Does this have anything to do with the Patriot Act or needing to stay ahead of the law?

Seriously, your info is golden (as usual). I'll use your metrics and try imagine how different bars might look on my bike.

Talk to ya soon.
H.
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Loki
Posted on Wednesday, June 18, 2003 - 07:19 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

The law has yet to catch up, normally just a couple inches ahead.....

More due to me wanting to stay employed. With all that is going on in southwest-asia, mod work has dried up for the time being. Except for a special group of airplanes owned by a SPECial grOuP. It means changing companies but.....So plan A is going to florida, B is going to the heart of Pa, C is going on a vacation.


special note of interest: S3Tour bars on an S1 really look bad!
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H_man
Posted on Wednesday, June 18, 2003 - 10:09 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Sounds like a strange story there Bri. Did you try out S3T bars on your S1? It must have looked like elk antlers.

Well, have fun. Things can get mighty dark doin' what you're doin'. One might say you could be doing operations in the black.
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Loki
Posted on Wednesday, June 18, 2003 - 11:02 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Me put tall bars on an S1? It came that way when I picked it up. The first thing I did was to put a set of S1W bar on it. Then it reminded me why I had the bar made for the M2.

Nothing like it being high noon and pitch black wherever one looks.
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Tripper
Posted on Thursday, June 19, 2003 - 09:14 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Nuthin wrong with S3T bars on an S1.
S3T bars

They're great if your a little short in the torso, but I've since gone to the S1W/S3 bar. The original S1 bar is 3 inches wider and makes the steering twitchy.
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