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Interceptor
Posted on Thursday, July 26, 2007 - 11:09 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Could anyone tell me how to slip the belt past the isolator?
I know I might need some sort of frame spreader, but was wondering if another method might work?
thanks all.
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Mikej
Posted on Thursday, July 26, 2007 - 11:16 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Search the knowledge vault, people either drop the swingarm or raise the frame, few home mechanics do the frame spreader trick. There is a well documented process for home mechanics often referred to as the one from American Thunderbike Club which might be a good search phrase.
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Interceptor
Posted on Thursday, July 26, 2007 - 02:48 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

I checked it out. It doesn't seem to be a big deal. I am wondering about the frame lift procedure as I have not read about it.
- I am guessing I have to remove the Torx isolator bolt (both?) and then lift the frame to get it to separate. I have to go look at it, but that sounds easier than removing those 4 swinger carrier bolts.
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Radon30
Posted on Thursday, July 26, 2007 - 03:50 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Remove the seat and gas tank, i hang my bike frame from the garage rafters. Remove the rear wheel and hugger fender. Remove the frame to isolator tie bar from isolator mount. Make sure to remove oil filter or it will get crushed. Remove the two 1/2" allen bolts and you should get the isolator mount to drop enough to remove and install the belt. Of course you will have to remove the front pulley, brackets off to remove and install the belt.
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Mikej
Posted on Thursday, July 26, 2007 - 04:02 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

And depending on mileage and condition, you might as well consider replacing the isolators at the same times since you'll have it apart.
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Bigdaddy
Posted on Thursday, July 26, 2007 - 09:31 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Excellent advice from Mikej! You're already in there so just knock it out.

I'd also recommend that you look around for Lafayette's "PRODUCT IMPROVED" method for belt replacement. Very original and effective.

G2
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Interceptor
Posted on Friday, July 27, 2007 - 12:28 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

thanks guys, thanks Radon.

i am going at it slowly, just picked up the proper Torx bit and am still trying to hang the bike in my garage.

Does anyone have the proper torque specs for the iso torx bolts and the allen bolts?

-oh yeah, why does the rear wheel have to come off?

(Message edited by interceptor on July 27, 2007)
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Interceptor
Posted on Friday, July 27, 2007 - 02:00 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

ok, I have it in the air and those allen bolts are out. I was loosening the TORX isolator bolts and they dont seem to be backing out for some reason. Anyone please chime in if I am doing something wrong.
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Interceptor
Posted on Saturday, July 28, 2007 - 12:01 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

ok, I am currently stuck. The isolator bolts are the problem. I broke them free when I first went to remove them. I turned and turned the ratchet but the bolts would not back out at all. They are semi loose and I cannot get them out. Both sides are doing the same thing and I highly doubt that they are broken, something is holding them in there.

(Message edited by interceptor on July 29, 2007)

(Message edited by interceptor on July 29, 2007)
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Bluzm2
Posted on Sunday, July 29, 2007 - 11:55 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Did you loosen the pinch allen bolts on the swing arm? There is one on each side. It's late and I'm tired, I don't remember if they are onthe top or bottom...
They need to be tight to keep the slugs from turning. The Torx bolts thread into the slugs.

Brad
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Radon30
Posted on Monday, July 30, 2007 - 10:53 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

yah! what Bluz said, and i know they use a lot of loctite my bolts so they were a bear to get out.
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Interceptor
Posted on Monday, July 30, 2007 - 11:07 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

AH HA! that must be my prob. I had those allen bolts out while trying to take the TORX ones out...DOH!
-Thank you much Bluzm2.


I think I read that the isolator bolts get torqued to 100 ft/lbs, is that right?
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Interceptor
Posted on Monday, July 30, 2007 - 10:54 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

all done. not the worst job in the world for a first timer. lifting/lowering the engine and swinger assembly is the most annoying part. The isolators looked just fine and stayed in place nicely while I jacked up the assembly.
When jacking the engine up and down, its hard to get the jack centered, so the engine wants to lean to the side, this made it a bit more difficult as you have to watch for the carb in case it gets close to the frame.
- I torqued the iso's to 60 foot pounds. I read the old allens get 100 foot pounds.
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Interceptor
Posted on Friday, August 10, 2007 - 04:23 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

here are some pics that may help the next noob on a belt install.














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Mikej
Posted on Saturday, August 11, 2007 - 01:32 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

You realize of course that you're now going to have to start a Quick board post about that neat old car in the background.


Nice job on the pics, thanks, helps people a lot.
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