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Bob_thompson
Posted on Friday, December 29, 2006 - 01:54 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Buying new tires for my M2 soon and like several different brands but wondering because fronts don't wear nearly as fast as the rears if I could fine a little better grip and handling by using a true sport type tire in the front and a more touring type in the rear, staying with the same brand on both ends, such as Conti's Sport attack in the front and their Road attack in the rear. They would seem to be pretty compatible and afford the best in grip and mileage. Anyone done this and do you think there would be any drawbacks? As an afterthought it looks like Skyguy did this a while back. Care to comment there Sky? Anyone else and thanks much all. Bob

(Message edited by bob_thompson on December 29, 2006)
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Reepicheep
Posted on Friday, December 29, 2006 - 11:00 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Without mixing, I typically get about twice the mileage out of a front as I do with a rear.

How much more do you want the front to last? After a couple years, I have to assume age will start to become a factor regardless of how good a tire it was when new.

On my M2, I mixed a Metzler M4 front with a D220 rear, no problem, then an M6 rear with the M4 front. Again, no problem. The D220 was junk, both Metzlers were great. If I had my m2 back in my hands today with bald tires, it would be getting scorpion syncs first, M6's would be my next choice.
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Bob_thompson
Posted on Tuesday, January 02, 2007 - 07:52 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Bill (Reep), not looking for any more wear out of the front, just maybe a little better front handling which the softer compound might give with the more sporty tire up there. More stick if you will. Then they would probably last about the same length of time. On another note: my(your) speedometer sensor still going strong after all this time if you remember me. Thanks much again, stay safe, Bob
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Reepicheep
Posted on Tuesday, January 02, 2007 - 09:34 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Cool! I remember! Thanks for the update.
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Rocketman
Posted on Tuesday, January 02, 2007 - 10:08 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Bob, you should consider the profiles for each make of tyre and specification of tyre.

A more 'V' shaped profile will give quicker steering for example than a more rounded profile. Playing within the different recommended tyre sizes for the rim size / width you are using also can / does have a relationship to the profile shape.

Personally I'd be happy not to be too analytical in my choice given many different scenarios are involved for the tyres used environment, which is much unlike a race track where most surface conditions and corner scenarios are know more constantly for each track.

Choose your favourite brands and ask their respective manufacturers to furnish you with the tech data and specs for each model and compound of tyre.

Me, I've always found Pirelli to give more noticeable performance but usually I find it difficult to tell which tyres work different or better / worse than the other.

Rocket
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Bob_thompson
Posted on Saturday, January 06, 2007 - 12:45 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Thanks Rocket, I agree totally. There are so many different road surface conditions and riding scenarios that most performance tires will be fine and I don't ride to the edge of anything anymore. I just want my M2 to have the best handling it can give me. Again, thanks to all you guys for the input.
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Bertman
Posted on Monday, January 15, 2007 - 11:54 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Bob, I just made the jump to Contisport front / Contiroad rear on my Firebolt. I wear out rear tires long before the front is gone, and had some issues with my previous Diablo Strada front sliding in corners when I thought it had no reason to do so. Now granted almost any set of new tires will handle better than old tires, and I only have about 300 miles on them, but the handling seams to be spot on. A quick trip to the Rock Store in 40-50 degree temperatures and the front was planted tight.
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Bob_thompson
Posted on Monday, January 15, 2007 - 12:13 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Brett (Bertman), thanks much, thats what I was hoping to hear. I still ride fairly agressively with my son in the canyons here also and thats great news. Have to wait a while though for the weather. The Rock store in January must be nice. Bob
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Littlebuggles
Posted on Saturday, January 20, 2007 - 06:48 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Bob, have you tried the Conti's? Wright's will hook up a pretty good price for you on them and the handling compared to the Dunlops is great. Some people have raved about them, I'm not easily impressed but they were confidence inspiring in East Canyon last Sept. They felt twitchy at first but that's just cause the D205's were so slow to turn in. They just hang on great on the swoopy freeway transitions (215 West bound to I-15 southbound is a great one for checking grip as is south I-15 to east 215) I found myself riding much faster with more comfort (less anxiety) on these transitions.

Have you read the Canyon Chasers (canyonchasers dot net)review of them? Dave is one of our local MSF instructors and does a lot of riding all over this area so he has great input...

I think he also teaches the ART class out at the Miller track.

-Mike
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Bob_thompson
Posted on Saturday, January 20, 2007 - 12:59 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Mike (Littlebuggles), I'm pretty much sold on the Conti's after much input from here, the canyon chasers article and will be ordering soon from AMAW in Idaho as they had the best price. I'll call Wrights soon and check their price also. On another note, I gave a thought of having a Buell(Utah) get-together one of these days to say hi to all here since the Utah Storm Fronts is gone. Maybe an East canyon ride or something. I'll probably post later in the spring on the Quick Board to check interest. MMP is great and looking forward to the AMA racing this season as well as some local club races. Thanks for your input and maybe we'll see you on the road. Bob
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