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Rasmonis
Posted on Saturday, December 23, 2006 - 05:26 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Hey all,

'06 XB12Scg:

So I was out today (great day to ride here in MD even though it's Dec 23rd - 64 degrees!), on my way from an excellent ride. I pulled into a parking lot after noticing I forgot to zip up my sling bag and the bike stalls as I pull into a parking spot. Didn't really think much of it then...

Got my gear together went to start, no-go nothing but clicking from the solenoid.

I managed to push start the bike, got my gear on and went a whole two blocks before it began running like total shyt. It ran a little worse than running with a race kit before a TPS reset with one exception, I could not keep the engine going it stalled dead. Pushed it a block or so to the nearest leveled lot and waited for K to rescue me.

Hooked up cables to the battery, and after 3 minutes or so the battery had enough charge to start the bike. Everything appeared fine, ran smooth for a few minutes. Turned it off couldn't start. charged a little longer, it started and I took off. About 1/4 mile or so up the road, it began running choppy and at the next light it stalled and shut off.

We charged the battery again got it up on a truck and took it home. It started fine at home, I parked it and here I am. I checked out the manual and found that if the bike won't start on its own but does start jumped I may need to replace the solenoid.

Is there anything else I should check?

Thanks in advance...
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Reepicheep
Posted on Saturday, December 23, 2006 - 06:59 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

I doubt its the solenoid.

First I would look for loose / corroded battery connectors.

Next, I would look at the connection between the stator and the voltage regulator (I think it is round about the front sprocket guard).

While you are that far into it (which is not far) do the stator impedance test (and maybe the stator output test). These are well described in the factory manual.

We can go from there.
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Rasmonis
Posted on Sunday, December 24, 2006 - 08:41 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

The connections to the battery are good and the connectors are clean. I'll check out the items you mentioned and report back.

-Thanks
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Reepicheep
Posted on Sunday, December 24, 2006 - 09:34 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Another easy data point to get while you have the seat off is to get steady state DC voltage across the battery with the ignition on but the engine not running. If you have a good enough meter, you might be able to watch the battery gradually drop from the headlight load.

Then start the bike up and get another steady state DC voltage reading. Again, if your meter is sensitive enough, you can watch the battery charge.

The difference between those two readings will help segment the problem down nicely.
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Rasmonis
Posted on Thursday, February 08, 2007 - 01:24 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Reepicheep:

I finally ran both tests (kind of) and checked the connections near the front sprocket guard(3 connectors - VR, speedo and ?).

I tested the battery at rest (@ 90% charge) and received a 12V reading. I started the bike and watched the reading vary from 12.6V to as high as 12.9V never quite made it to 13V. I am assuming that the battery is charging or at the very least not losing its charge from regular operation.

I put in the race plugs in and noticed the stock spark plugs looked quite healthy. The front plug was a little moist but I am not overly concerned. The top had that beige dusting the manual describes as being "normal" wear.

I'll try the startor impedance test tonight and see what I get.

I haven't had any problems since I brought her home, but I have not gone on a ride longer than 12 mi since. Everything appears OK, I'd just hate to run into problems while @ MBIV.
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The_new_guy
Posted on Wednesday, March 07, 2007 - 10:38 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Thanks Rasmonis, I did not see that when I did my last badweb search. That sounds exactly like what happened to me.

I'm going to have to get a battery tender too although my bike is stored in a heated garage. It does sit for extended periods.

On the upside, I just bought a Ventura pack system from American Sport Bike. I can't wait to put some major miles on the bike this summer. It seems to be pretty durable although I think the mounting brackets will take away from the looks of the bike a little. I can fit a lot of extra batteries in there too!

Gregg
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Rasmonis
Posted on Sunday, June 10, 2007 - 06:21 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Update:

The bike ran for a few weeks after charging it. Then the same thing happened again. I replaced the battery and a day later, dead.

I needed to have the voltage regulator replaced, the end.
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