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Tripp
Posted on Wednesday, November 29, 2006 - 12:21 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

99 m2, even with bike definitely in neutral sometimes the neutral light does'nt come on and, she no starty! so i opened my handy dandy service manual found the switch (approx. 1 o'clock at front pulley), the wire goes up and under the starter. i've tried the standard methods ie; swearing, jumping up and down, wiggling the wire, etc.
comes down to, if the bikes still hot, i have to pop start. the next day (cold), the neutral light shines neon brite, hoo hoo! maybe i have'nt looked in the right place in the service manual but, it does'nt seem to say much about the switch. anybody ever replace one?
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Bartimus
Posted on Friday, December 01, 2006 - 08:56 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

jumper the switch and see if the problem goes away...
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Bigdog_tim
Posted on Friday, December 01, 2006 - 09:28 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

FYI - I had a similar problem with my 2000 M2. I pulled the indicator light panel out and giggled the LEDs. It worked find then.
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Sparky
Posted on Monday, December 04, 2006 - 11:20 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Lights? We don't need no stinkin' lights!

Seriously, if it's like my 96 S1, it should start by pulling in the clutch lever (and hitting the start button).
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Sloppy
Posted on Wednesday, December 06, 2006 - 08:33 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Remove the clutch lever switch and open it up by gently prying open the tabs. You'll likely see corrosion on the copper tab and slide. Dissassemble and use an eraser to clean the corrosion on BOTH the slide and the tab. Coat the sliding metal parts with dielectric grease. Reassemble the switch. Run a bead of silicone around the perimeter of the housing to seal out moisture.

Bam. You're done. Now go ride...
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Tripp
Posted on Friday, March 09, 2007 - 07:05 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

as you suspected there was in fact corrosion on the slide and tabs. my set up had a stubborn screw but, like you said the eraser cleaned it up nicey nicey. for anybody out there attempting this be prepared to see a little spring go flying, watch for it and mentally note this location for later. i'm charging the battery tonite - i'll give her a whirl tomorrow! thanks sloppy
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Tripp
Posted on Saturday, March 10, 2007 - 11:03 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

doh, no dice. i guess it must be the part at the front sprocket, i hope i can fix it before march badness!!
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Tripp
Posted on Saturday, March 10, 2007 - 07:50 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

check out this diagram, i'm not sure i can put a jumper on the neutral switch itself, in the pic at the top of the thread you can see where the n.switch is.
http://www.badweatherbikers.com/buell/messages/476 23/158180.html
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Ducxl
Posted on Saturday, March 10, 2007 - 09:00 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

if the bikes still hot, i have to pop start

That isn't right.Even with the "Starter interlock" thinking it's not in neutral,it must start with the clutch lever pulled in.I had a similar problem with what i thought was my kickstand switch.Ended up being the little black diode that looks like a fuse in the fuse panel.At less than $2. i was all set.

If your problem IS also starter related,try replacing a diode,there are two of them on the fuse panel.They're about the size of a fuse but,are black with an important arrow,for direction right on top of them.

I actually cleaned the prong of corrosion on mine and it worked,but they are so cheap i replaced them.
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Tripp
Posted on Sunday, March 11, 2007 - 06:43 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

scratch the still hot thing.
at this point with the bike in neutral with no light, kick stand up and clutch pulled no start.
i tried to ground the neutral switch wire out to get a light with no success. will try diode replacement. thanks, i'll let you know how i make out.
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Tripp
Posted on Sunday, March 18, 2007 - 11:39 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

link to qb thread
http://www.badweatherbikers.com/buell/messages/406 2/264733.html?1174275440
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Tripp
Posted on Monday, March 19, 2007 - 08:58 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

related kv:
http://www.badweatherbikers.com/buell/messages/201 64/188975.html#POST631189
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Tripp
Posted on Wednesday, April 11, 2007 - 12:22 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

update, can now start bike! i replaced the starter relay, and bypassing clutch switch with a little wire in the plug. still no neutral light but bike starts with no pushing! will replace clutch switch, and eventually investigate neutral bulb, switch and wire.: )
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Tripp
Posted on Sunday, April 15, 2007 - 05:39 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

more on subject
http://www.badweatherbikers.com/buell/messages/384 2/158832.html?1131758774
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Tripp
Posted on Sunday, April 15, 2007 - 05:42 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

and more
http://www.badweatherbikers.com/buell/messages/384 2/210600.html?1152209996
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