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Snowscum
Posted on Saturday, October 07, 2006 - 01:26 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Well this is my second belt. The dealer took pictures and sent them to Buell.
Buell response back was they will not cover a second belt. Its been doing this since its new. The dealer hasnt a clue whats doing this nor will they help me. So I'm stuck with a belt that will not last the life of the bike as they say. I think the whole thing is bs. Thoughts?



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Diablobrian
Posted on Saturday, October 07, 2006 - 04:42 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

That is an alignment issue. Either the swingarm, the tensioner, or one of the pulleys
is out of alignment and causing the belt to not track straight.

I would inspect these parts, and where they mount very carefully to find what is causing
the mis-alignment. It shouldn't be that difficult to locate if you know what to look for.
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Snowscum
Posted on Saturday, October 07, 2006 - 07:25 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

But shouldnt the dealer handle this?
They have looked at it 3 times now.
I looked at it and I dont see what the problem is. Ill take the covers off of it tomorrow and take some pictures.
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Blake
Posted on Saturday, October 07, 2006 - 10:55 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Has the bike ever been crashed or run into?
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Snowscum
Posted on Sunday, October 08, 2006 - 01:20 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

No it hasn't. It has 4000 miles on it now.
The first belt was shredded like that within the first 100 miles of ownership. At about 1200 they replaced it. Now the second one is just like the first one. Not sure if the dealer is telling the whole truth. Why wouldnt Buell investigate the issue? One of the techs at High country HD told me he has seen other Ulys with the same problem but when I asked the service manager today he said that he hasnt seen it before. So who am I supposed to believe? Dont know where to turn now. Sorry about posting in the Court forum. Thought someone from Buell kept an eye on that forum.
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Buell_rider_24
Posted on Monday, October 09, 2006 - 09:30 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Well i'have sent your pic to my dealership to see what he thinks,i've got problems with my belt too and they don't know yet what cause it i'should know by tomorrow the only thing that i can see is that belt is not tracking right but why?
take it easy!

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Snowscum
Posted on Monday, October 09, 2006 - 09:57 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

http://gallery.t10.net/albums_t10/album111/aab.jpg

Had to post a big picture so you can see maybe I have an alignment problem?
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Snowscum
Posted on Tuesday, October 10, 2006 - 08:27 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

This forum doesnt get much traffic.
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Red_chili
Posted on Tuesday, October 10, 2006 - 08:46 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Looks like that front pulley is shaving the edge of the belt? If so, clearly a warranty issue.
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Snowscum
Posted on Tuesday, October 10, 2006 - 01:11 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

I think its a warranty issue regardless if anything screws with the belt. IMO! Lol
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Snowscum
Posted on Wednesday, October 11, 2006 - 03:25 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Called Harley and sent in my pictures.
We will see if anything gets resolved.
*crosses fingers*
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Buell_rider_24
Posted on Thursday, October 12, 2006 - 03:48 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Don't give up they should take it under warranty regardless if it's the secunt belt ,you have so little miles on your bike.i'll will pick up mine this afternoon with a brand new 2007 drive belt on it.the dealer who had changed my rear tire paid for the belt and I'll pay for the labor
Take it easy budy
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Snowscum
Posted on Thursday, October 12, 2006 - 06:37 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Well their not going to do anything about it.
2 strikes so far. Hopefully Dave from appletons has the insite to convince someone at harley that there is something wrong going on here. I mean if this belt comes apart and I get hurt someone is going to pay. I hope I dont get hurt. Looks like I need to find an attorney just in case this gets ugly!
It's not like this is a used bike. I payed
alot of money for a NEW bike and its been doing this since it was new. So far Im not a big fan of belt driven motorcycles.

Well Im done ranting. Needed to get that off my chest!
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Reepicheep
Posted on Thursday, October 12, 2006 - 06:51 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Well, seems like there can't be that many things wrong and causing that... and that it should be pretty easy to narrow down to a cause.
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Snowscum
Posted on Thursday, October 12, 2006 - 07:44 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Thats what I thought. Im confused if this is
the way things are handled through harley.
Their not making want to buy another one thats for sure.
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Reepicheep
Posted on Friday, October 13, 2006 - 10:24 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

If you are remotely mechanically inclined, we (the Buell community) can help as well.

If it were me, I would pop off that front belt sprocket cover and peek in and see if I can see anything that could be touching the belt, or look for burrs on either sprocket.
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Court
Posted on Friday, October 13, 2006 - 11:07 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

>>>>if this is the way things are handled through harley.

It's not. Don't buy into the silliness.

Have you spoken to Customer Service?

If not, please pick up a phone. When you do, have your V.I.N., the facts, what's been done, who's done it etc.

Listen closely and answer their questions.

My bet is that you'll be pleasantly surprised.

Court
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Buell_rider_24
Posted on Friday, October 13, 2006 - 11:27 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)



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Snowscum
Posted on Friday, October 13, 2006 - 12:13 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Court I have already done that. The dealer said harley told them that it is fine.
Do you agree with them? I dont!
Another course of action?
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Court
Posted on Friday, October 13, 2006 - 01:32 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Send me a note with a number I can reach you at.

I don't know the answer, but want to make certain you get the best service.
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Court
Posted on Friday, October 13, 2006 - 02:17 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Snowscum . . . call the stadium operator.

Operators.....as they say....are standing by.

: )
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Snowscum
Posted on Friday, October 13, 2006 - 03:07 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Email sent. Thanks Court if you can help.

Back to work I go!!!
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Court
Posted on Friday, October 13, 2006 - 03:55 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Got it.

Go work....we'll talk tomorrow.
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Snowscum
Posted on Saturday, October 14, 2006 - 07:40 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Never heard from you today. Did you want to talk next week sometime? Let me know.
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Snowscum
Posted on Sunday, October 15, 2006 - 09:23 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Thanks Court for contacting me. I hope I can get this resolved. Thanks for going out of your way.
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Snowscum
Posted on Friday, October 20, 2006 - 04:10 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

The factory fix for my issue seems to be a new idler pulley. I will let you guys know how it works out. Thanks for help guys!
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Daves
Posted on Friday, October 20, 2006 - 07:45 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

You are welcome
Thanks for letting me help
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Bayou_flyer
Posted on Friday, February 08, 2008 - 04:54 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

I need help tomorrow morning I am going to buy me a new belt for my 04 xb12r my last belt flew off and i need to install the new one on my bike any help on how to do this would be appreciated
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Reepicheep
Posted on Friday, February 08, 2008 - 06:12 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Install it according to the service manual you picked up at the same time ;)

Here is the process:

Remove rear axle pinch bolts.
Loosen rear axle by like 15 turns. Or was it 5? Maybe it was 20.
Remove idler assembly.
Remove swingarm brace.
Inspect pulleys for damage, and idler assembly to make sure its true.
Install new belt. Never bend it back on itself, and never bend it to a tight radius. The newer belts are a lot less sensitive to this, but don't chance it anyway.
Reassemble swingarm brace. Use loktite blue. Or maybe its red for that. Torque to 5 footpounds. Or was it 50? Maybe that was inch pounds?
Reinstall idler pulley (don't crink the belt).
Retorque the axle. If you have not had it out before to be sure there is anti-sieze on it, you should probably pull it and slather a lot on there. There is a very specific and critically important procedure for retorquing the axle, no part of which I can recall right now.
Retighten the pinch bolts. Those I know use loktite blue, not red, but again I can't remember the foot pounds.

: ) See my point? I wouldn't trust me, even if I did read me on the internet : )

Maybe somebody nicer then me (and less uptight about copyrights) will scan and post the pages from the manual, or look up the torques. Or maybe the dealer that sold you the belt will copy the pages for you..
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Reepicheep
Posted on Friday, February 08, 2008 - 06:14 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Reading back over that, I completely forgot about the front sprocket cover. See! : )
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Bayou_flyer
Posted on Monday, February 11, 2008 - 01:49 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

YEA.... Thanks for the info. the belt is on and it held up to a Sunday of riding 200+ miles with a top speed of 125 in a controlled environment.

I removed the top portion of the swing arm and the front sprocket cover total of 4 allen screws and 3 torx screws. slid the belt around the front pulley over the idler and on the bottom of the rear sprocket rolled the bike forward and the belt went on and in line belt still looks like new after riding.
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Phreedom
Posted on Sunday, August 30, 2009 - 05:52 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

MY drive belt just lost half its teeth its an 06 Ulysess with 30,000 miles. Any thoughts experience with this. Has anyone got Buell to replace a "lifetime" belt that failed out of warranty ??
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Blake
Posted on Monday, August 31, 2009 - 01:58 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

If the bike is out of warranty, then not likely.
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