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Naustin
Posted on Friday, August 18, 2006 - 02:17 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

I recently bought an 01 S3T. I had the dealer tune it up and I requested Syn3 oils. The Tech recommended I not go to Syn3 because of concerns that the synthetic oil is so slippery that the rollers in the Timken bearings might slide rather than rotate.

Has anyone head of this concern before?
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Hans
Posted on Friday, August 18, 2006 - 04:19 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

The rollers will roll, not slide. You can use the Syn3 oil. It is the best oil there is: Also for your Buell 01S3T.
When you search this board, you will find this question beaten to dead.
However: Ride the beast with whatever oil you want. It are sturdy engines.
Hans
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Henrik
Posted on Friday, August 18, 2006 - 05:24 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

The "sliding bearing" myth has been around for ages. Don't worry about it.

Henrik
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Naustin
Posted on Thursday, August 24, 2006 - 10:08 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

I searched for timken and synthetic together and didn't find anything. I think I even tried spelling timken with an 'i' instead of the 'e'...Probably user error on my part... Sorry to resurrect a dead horse.

Anyway - I thought it was B.S. and that I'd heard it somewhere before. But, I didn't push it since they were changing the oils on their dime after I bought the bike used.

Thanks, Anyways!
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Hans
Posted on Thursday, August 24, 2006 - 10:55 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Google search on "synthetic oil Timken bearing" brought me here:

(Timken is worlds biggest factory for tapered roller bearings)

http://www.timken.com/lubrication/faq.asp

"Do you recommend synthetic oil lubrication for your tapered roller bearings?
Timken has no objection to the use of synthetic lubricants with tapered roller bearings, provided they contain the proper additives for the specific application requirements. In some instances, synthetic greases are superior to petroleum-based oils in their ability to resist break down from mechanical and thermal conditions. However, the original equipment manufacturer should always be consulted concerning any change from a lubricant that is specified by them. Before using synthetic oil grease for your application, contact your sales or service engineer to be sure it is acceptable."


And HD has now even its own, fine, synthetic oil, so I may presume that they have no objections.

However: It is in the extremes that there are advantages of full synthetic oils: Hot climate and prolonged stop and go traffic where the oil becomes very hot.
And synthetic oils are less deteriorating with time than dynosaurus stuff.
When you keep your oil young and fresh, it keeps your bike happy, whatever you use.

Have a good ride.
Hans
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Bomber
Posted on Thursday, August 24, 2006 - 11:28 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

much research has proven that clean, fresh oil of the appropriate weight is the most important thing when it comes to lubing the engine/gearbox --

all other issues fade to secondary and teriary importance (though I DO run a full synth in my MaDeuce, for the reasons Hans explains nicely)
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