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Xldevil
Posted on Monday, May 15, 2006 - 02:53 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Installed my Wilbers race suspension shock today.

Wilbers

This is not a simple damper unit, they add a link system that pushed not pulled like the original shock. It's perfect on the street and under race conditions as well. Most sensitive with a separate high-speed and low-speed compression damping unit.
Going for a rest ride on tommorow morning.
Ralph



(Message edited by xldevil on May 15, 2006)
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Xldevil
Posted on Monday, May 15, 2006 - 03:00 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Some more pics.

link




looking good
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Bomber
Posted on Monday, May 15, 2006 - 03:59 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

nice looking gear, there, Devil -- if it works as well as it looks, you should be very happy, yes?
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Djkaplan
Posted on Monday, May 15, 2006 - 04:41 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

I don't think I've ever seen your bike before. Very nice M2!

What is the plug on the cam cover for?
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Xldevil
Posted on Tuesday, May 16, 2006 - 12:59 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Going for a rest ride on tommorow morning.
Two mistakes in such a short sentence-I'm getting old.
Test ride- tomorrow.
O.k.
Yes, I should/will be very happy, if it rides as good as it looks.It's a really pricy part and I'm demanding a vast improvement in road performance.
Last, but not least,I'm hoping to get rid of oiling shocks every 20K kilometers.Wilbers gives 5 years warranty.
For the cam cover plug,it's a kind of inspection cover, to check the oil pump drive gear.But you need a technical endoscope to do this.
Now that I have that High Performance Oil Pump Drive Gear 26391-06, I hope I don't need it anymore.
Ralph






(Message edited by xldevil on May 16, 2006)
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Bigdaddy
Posted on Tuesday, May 16, 2006 - 07:30 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Eindrucksvoll ist!

Keep up the good work Ralph.


bis spater,


G2
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Dirkwilbers
Posted on Wednesday, May 24, 2006 - 08:35 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Hello everybody,

my name is Dirk and I'm writing to you from Wilbers Racing Suspension company in Germany.
XLdevil, it is so cool that you got our shocks installed into your bike. A lot of riders in the USa really don't know Wilbers shocks...

Actually we are trying to remedy that fact. Wilbers did launch it's first internet website in English language only one month ago...

If you need information or have any questions, please do not hesitate to ask.

For the shock you bought, I did translate its description...

Type 631 Ø 36 mm for Buell

Buell offers twin-feeling the American way. A completely customized engine converts the good old Milwaukee-Twin into a bike with around 100 HP and a lot of turning moment. The astonishingly short wheelbase empowers the Buell to easily manage steep curves.
Unfortunately, if driven to its limits, the linkage and the shock-absorber reveal their weakness:
To enable the short wheelbase, the shock was installed horizontally below the engine. The problem is that the shock has to be actuated directly thus working on rebound- not on compression. Even worse, the suspension travel of the shock is shortened rendering the setup from difficult to impracticable.
Therefore Wilbers-Products developed an inverse function, resetting the suspension systems function to conventional, namely to compression. Our shock absorber with 36 mm in diameter is provided with a flexible hose connected reservoir with the ability to adjust compression for low-speed and high-speed damping by 22 clicks each. The rebound is also easily adjusted by 22 clicks while the preload is always continuously adjustable. Through its suspension being variable in length you might raise or lower the motorcycles rear end. The Buell kit is also available for the Classic-line (with a black spring in contrast to the blue one for the Sports-line).

So, again, if you need anything, we are ready to ship it over to the USA!

Have a great day and always ride safe!

Dirk
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Buelldualsport
Posted on Monday, May 29, 2006 - 07:09 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Dirk:

Thanks for the update. What is the web address for your site?

Have you developed a shock for the XB series bikes?

Thanks
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Dirkwilbers
Posted on Monday, May 29, 2006 - 11:35 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Hello man,

you might find our web-side (it is still worked on) under www.wilbers.de/usa

We got shocks for some of the XB, example the XB 12 X Ulysses or the XB9 series.
Just tell me what you are searching for and I'll see if I might help, OK?

Coming back tomorrow (as its close to 6 p.m. in Germany now and closing time for today...Sorry...)

Enjoy the week,

greetings,
Dirk
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Buelldualsport
Posted on Monday, May 29, 2006 - 12:47 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Dirk:

Thanks for the site.

We are looking to lower the ULY about an 1" - 1 1/2" (25-37 mm).

It would seem as thought a slightly longer shock overall length would be the solution.

Any ideas?

Thanks
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V2win
Posted on Monday, May 29, 2006 - 06:38 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

I have a Wilbers on my Yamaha FJR. It is the best single improvement I have made to the bike. Excellent product and customer service.
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Jackbequick
Posted on Monday, May 29, 2006 - 08:02 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Dirk,

Thanks for the info on your shocks. I was not successful at finding the shock shown on the M2 above at the link you posted. Can you give me a link to more info on that or tell me what the type number is for it?

Fellow Buellers, is it just me or does this look like a product that you would expect to find on American Sport Bike pages? Maybe Dirk needs a U.S. distributor?

Jack
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Simond
Posted on Monday, May 29, 2006 - 09:18 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Both American Sport Bike and Trojan supply a remarkably similar product manufactured by Hyperpro.


Hyperpro Shock
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Dirkwilbers
Posted on Tuesday, May 30, 2006 - 05:31 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Hello guys and thank you for your support.

Jackbequick,
I can imagine you did not find a shock for the M2. It falls under the description:all models including lever-system.
However, due to the special construction of the shock and it's special linking system, the only Wilbers shock available is the 631 with hose connected reservoir.
Unfortunately lowering the M2 with Wilbers shocks is not possible I have to admit, as the swing cannot be shortened without loosing stroke, power, handling or comfort.

As a matter of fact, we do have ONE american service-point (Run N Lites in NJ) and really are interested in having more service-stations in the future. I'll forward the address to Mr. Wilbers.

Have a great day,
C you here soon

Dirk
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Bud
Posted on Wednesday, May 31, 2006 - 12:09 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

lowering should be easy i should think..?

by making the bar between the swingarm and the lever longer

just me first thought,

gr,b
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Dirkwilbers
Posted on Wednesday, May 31, 2006 - 03:09 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Jackbequick, actually the shock for your M2 is the same XlDevil installed.
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Jackbequick
Posted on Wednesday, May 31, 2006 - 08:47 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Thanks Dirk,

I was sort of interested in finding the price and did not manage to do that. It is probably more a case of idle curiosity than my being a potential buyer. I'm happy enough with the ride on for the investment my M2.

Jack
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Dirkwilbers
Posted on Thursday, June 01, 2006 - 02:46 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Jack, the price is, due to all the reconstruction and the special linkage needed 1399 US $.

It is not that important that you are a buyer, only that you are interested in our products...

Take care,

Dirk
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Jackbequick
Posted on Thursday, June 01, 2006 - 02:54 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Thanks Dirk,

I have an appreciation for good work and things that work good, your shock is at the top of my list for an replacement should I pursue that.

I'm looking forward to hearing what Xldevil thinks of it.

Jack

(Message edited by jackbequick on June 01, 2006)
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Dirkwilbers
Posted on Friday, June 02, 2006 - 02:27 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Me too !!!

Have a great weekend!

Dirk
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Xldevil
Posted on Thursday, June 22, 2006 - 02:44 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

I'm looking forward to hearing what Xldevil thinks of it
Hey.
Only 500 miles or so on the shock right now,(stator failure,late or night shift,bad weather and last but not least,the soccer world cup!) so I can't really say what the longtime situation is going to be...
But, the shock is a vast improvement.I really slide over any kind of bad road surface.Even at higher speeds on the bad surfaces of our western german autobahn.
With the Showa, sometimes,if not always,it was like riding a rodeo horse.
When it comes to slanting position,I can lean out much more,the bike seems to ride on rails and I feel very save.
I'm pretty sure it is the best single improvement one can do to the bike's handling.
Ralph



(Message edited by xldevil on June 22, 2006)
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