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Teddagreek
Posted on Friday, April 28, 2006 - 01:18 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Very New here just got a 2005 XB9sx and loving it... its going to the dealer for 5000 mile service next week.. How is the harley sync I've and good and bad about it.. Some on said it makes the valves loud.. Anyways I've used Redline gear oil and made my tranny on my VW butter smooth...

Whats every one think of REDLINE 20W60HD or is there something better for a buell?

Our motor oil specifically blended for the needs of American air-cooled V-Twin motorcycle engines provides the highest degree of protection and cleanliness available. Provides 50% more bearing viscosity than a petroleum 20W50. Note: Our customers are finding that most Japanese V-twins or "metric cruisers" work well on Red Line's 10W40.


20w60HD
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Blake
Posted on Friday, April 28, 2006 - 05:09 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

If you ride in really hot stop and go conditions, it might be a good idea. Otherwise, it is overkill.
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Buellistic
Posted on Friday, April 28, 2006 - 05:33 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

First 60K miles used H-D 20W-50, changed
oil/filters every 2500 miles ...
SPORTSTER trans. lube, changed evey 5K miles ...

At 60K miles went to to H-D 20W-50 Syn3, now change every 3K miles ...
Run Syn3 in trans., change every 5K miles ...

As of the last ride the odometer reads 89K miles and the "TOP END" has never been off !!!
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Brucelee
Posted on Friday, April 28, 2006 - 07:32 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

20/60 is not needed and in fact, will cause more internal heat due to higher viscosity.


Use the 20/50 RL, it is great oil with a very high sheer strength.
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Jkhawaii
Posted on Friday, April 28, 2006 - 09:24 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

I feel the 20W-60 is better suited to the big twins (88,103 ect) as they run a lot higher oil temperatures
my XB12S oil temperature in the tank is usualy around 120-140 deg F were my dads softtail runs oil temperatures in the 180-210 range
I am currently using Redline 20-50 in the engine
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Blake
Posted on Saturday, April 29, 2006 - 09:49 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

JK Hawaii,

Yikes! Your XB12's engine oil temp is way too low. If your data is accurate (might want to check your temperature gauge), I'd strongly suggest that you take measures to allow your XB's oil temperature to increase into the same range as that your Dad's Soft-Tail sees, from 180 to 210 deg F. Engine oil really should become hot enough inside the engine to vaporize/boil-off moisture. A general rule of thumb is that engine oil temp is around 10% higher than temperature of oil in tank.
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Brucelee
Posted on Saturday, April 29, 2006 - 11:58 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

That RL 20/50 already has a HTHS of 6.1. You will not exceed that unless you let in idle in your kitchen oven,
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Jkhawaii
Posted on Saturday, April 29, 2006 - 12:04 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

while I am using a IR temp gun for measurements
and it dose read about 20 deg lower compaired to the
temperature guage in the softtails oil tank (some one needs to stick a temp guage in a buell oil cap)
so 140-160 would likly be closer to actual temp
this is swing arm temperature also. I can believe the temperature to be reading lower than in the 88tc.
since the XB has a real nice oil cooler called a swing arm and a nice big oil cooler out front : )
I do agree that the oil temperature is pretty low
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